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Old 05-24-2010, 02:09 PM
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Biotronik ICD's are failing in Europe. Any details?
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:57 PM
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total hogwash.

nuff said !
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:10 PM
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Wouldn't they be able to cover up the Europe stuff?
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:47 PM
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Wouldn't they be able to cover up the Europe stuff?
The very fact that a fleshy-headed narcoleptic mutant such as yourself is talking about this on the world wid web should answer your question, you dolt. The Earth is round, by the way.

Biotronik's messaging is pretty much based on "quality German engineering". If this recall goes down, every competitive rep in the 4% of the US market whose been feeling the Biotronik pressure would be shouting this from the rooftops. Unlike Boston Sci who has lulled their implant community into a stupor with the "made by man, therefore..." mantra, Biotronik docs are usually somewhat interested in reliability. The facts are that the story of Biotronik's downfall would be about as impactful to most US docs as their current safety success is....not very. US doctors and their administrator overlords don't care about safety - if they did, they would not be signing 85/15 volume commitment contracts predicated on PRICE. They would be signing 3 and 4 vendor deals predicated on RISK diversification. Nuff said.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:09 AM
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The very fact that a fleshy-headed narcoleptic mutant such as yourself is talking about this on the world wid web should answer your question, you dolt. The Earth is round, by the way.

Biotronik's messaging is pretty much based on "quality German engineering". If this recall goes down, every competitive rep in the 4% of the US market whose been feeling the Biotronik pressure would be shouting this from the rooftops. Unlike Boston Sci who has lulled their implant community into a stupor with the "made by man, therefore..." mantra, Biotronik docs are usually somewhat interested in reliability. The facts are that the story of Biotronik's downfall would be about as impactful to most US docs as their current safety success is....not very. US doctors and their administrator overlords don't care about safety - if they did, they would not be signing 85/15 volume commitment contracts predicated on PRICE. They would be signing 3 and 4 vendor deals predicated on RISK diversification. Nuff said.
I thought Biotronik docs were interested in money.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:23 AM
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I thought Biotronik docs were interested in money.
I love this old chestnut.

My two cents:

1) If we are buying all our business, we're doing a shitty job since we still only have 4% of the market!

2) I know its fun to say, but honestly, between the DOJ, FDA, competitive reps and websites like this - is ANYONE capable of getting away with anything truly nefarious anymore? I mean, registries, training sites and after market studies are pretty much everywhere - so when you say "buying business", I just don't get it.

3) Most importantly - ALL doctors are interested in money.

I'm not so naive to believe that its NOT happening in this company. I'd just ask that you consider how naive you look when you infer that its not happening in yours.

Good luck.
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:12 PM
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Replying to:

#1: Then it is correct that 94% of doctors have ethics.

#2: You have no clue how the DOJ is about to unleash.

#3: I guess you are doing a shitty job, then.
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:38 PM
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Yes, isn't the DOJ in the midst of investigating? You have been requested not to delete important documents and all that blah blah blah. So as to pretend that your whole 4% market share didn't come from shady dealings, you must have forgotten what or rather who got you where you are today. Sales don't increase 900% for nothing. And rumors aren't just made up, they are based on truth.
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Old 05-26-2010, 08:12 AM
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Yes, isn't the DOJ in the midst of investigating? You have been requested not to delete important documents and all that blah blah blah. So as to pretend that your whole 4% market share didn't come from shady dealings, you must have forgotten what or rather who got you where you are today. Sales don't increase 900% for nothing. And rumors aren't just made up, they are based on truth.
nuff said
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:49 AM
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#1: Then it is correct that 94% of doctors have ethics.

#2: You have no clue how the DOJ is about to unleash.

#3: I guess you are doing a shitty job, then.
"Then it is correct that 94% of doctors have ethics."

BWAHAHAAGHAAAHGA Ha ha haa... oooooohhhh... my goodness. Thank you.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:42 PM
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All CRM companies have some shady business. Biotronik just seems to have a lot more of it.

Just look in South Carolina, Souther California, and Las Vegas.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:46 PM
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All CRM companies have some shady business. Biotronik just seems to have a lot more of it.

Just look in South Carolina, Souther California, and Las Vegas.


I'll def look in "Souther" California....ATD moron.
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:27 PM
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Pick on the typo because the other stuff is true. Try to avoid the topic which is a company with a nefarious reputation for their dealings. The DOJ is on to you now, who knows what they will unearth.
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:51 PM
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independent reps groups have been subpoenaed?
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:47 AM
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As well they should be. The company always thought it was shielded because of the independant representative. Unfortunately they are not so independant. Products are not purchased from the distributer. The independant rep recieves support from the company in many ways but the most obvious are studies, consulting agreements, and educational visits.

As a company Biotronik cannot pretent to be unaware of the practices of independant representatives and then continually support them.

It truly is the last bastion of "The Way Business Was Done".
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:30 PM
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There is no mention of any ICD problems anywhere else but here. What are you talking about? What problems do you mean when you say they are failing? And how do you know?
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:54 AM
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There is no mention of any ICD problems anywhere else but here. What are you talking about? What problems do you mean when you say they are failing? And how do you know?
I agree with the poster above. No recall... sorry flame boys you better stick to the old lies about us as this one won't stick.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:02 PM
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I'm glad that Las Vegas business wasn't shady with it was all BSX, but now since it's with BIO it must be shady... What a douche....
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Old 06-04-2010, 04:44 PM
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I'm glad that Las Vegas business wasn't shady with it was all BSX, but now since it's with BIO it must be shady... What a douche....
Who said it wasn't shady with BSX? I am sure it was, and I am there is no difference with Biotronic.
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Old 06-04-2010, 04:51 PM
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I want to ask you to think of this. Why did the DM and the RSD over Las Vegas get let go? There are many speculations you could make about the fact that these two are now gone. It is much easier to unload direct employees than monster independents. Bio is basically split up now between corporate and Western Medical.
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Old 06-07-2010, 04:40 PM
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I want to ask you to think of this. Why did the DM and the RSD over Las Vegas get let go? There are many speculations you could make about the fact that these two are now gone. It is much easier to unload direct employees than monster independents. Bio is basically split up now between corporate and Western Medical.
You have your facts wrong.

The two RSD's that you are talking about are in charge of the Southwest and Pacific Northwest areas. More about not needing these people anymore (Biotronik let go of 5 RSD's total) than what you are trying to imply. Keep spreading the rumors and those areas will just keep beating the shit out of you on the playing field.

Good Luck
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:40 PM
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That's a bunch of spin. Mighty big coincidence. Time will tell
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:39 PM
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You have your facts wrong.

The two RSD's that you are talking about are in charge of the Southwest and Pacific Northwest areas. More about not needing these people anymore (Biotronik let go of 5 RSD's total) than what you are trying to imply. Keep spreading the rumors and those areas will just keep beating the shit out of you on the playing field.

Good Luck
You sir have your facts wrong. 5 weren't let go. 4 were and one took a "sales job". Bio had no choice. They had to fire someone to create an appearance of compliance once they were backed into a corner. One was necessary, the other was spite. What is true is that they clearly didn't fire the offenders, but the messenger and the crony. Bio historically keeps anyone who drives and grows business. Managers walk the line of helping to create an environment for their type of business to flourish and keeping it under control. As goes with their title, managers will take the fall, unless they can drive more business than the offenders do. And to the opinion that they weren't needed, their credit cards were the reason they were needed as well as creating an army of retained consultants, trainers and speakers for what is still up for debate. I dont think they're beating the shit out of many, just sweeping market share proportional to whom they've recruited. Those who do go over realize they either better be cashing out at the end of a good career or swing for the fence. The reputation which may have been hard earned is now slightly stained by greed and filth.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:43 PM
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Yes, isn't the DOJ in the midst of investigating? You have been requested not to delete important documents and all that blah blah blah. So as to pretend that your whole 4% market share didn't come from shady dealings, you must have forgotten what or rather who got you where you are today. Sales don't increase 900% for nothing. And rumors aren't just made up, they are based on truth.
You're insinuating that what is said of Bio are rumors. Credit card receipts, consulting contracts, study documents etc compared to sales numbers are a a bit more tangible that here-say.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:47 PM
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Biotronik ICD's are failing in Europe. Any details?
Dont know about Europe, but the cans seem to do well in the US. 3 years on the current generation and no issues. Last generation was the same. Some results can be washed but only for so long(fidelis).
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:50 AM
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Why don't you all go back to the Boston Scientific board and bash the shitty and unethical company that you are stuck working for, or the St. Jude board were you just paid another fine to the DOJ and continue to pretend that you didn't, or Medtronic which has the worst reliability of any company ever...

Let the regulatory companies investigate everyone and lets just see what happens. Biotronik is not going away so get ready to deal with 4 vendors on the your next contract!
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:15 PM
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Why don't you all go back to the Boston Scientific board and bash the shitty and unethical company that you are stuck working for, or the St. Jude board were you just paid another fine to the DOJ and continue to pretend that you didn't, or Medtronic which has the worst reliability of any company ever...

Let the regulatory companies investigate everyone and lets just see what happens. Biotronik is not going away so get ready to deal with 4 vendors on the your next contract!
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave us alone. We don't like the truth.
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:29 PM
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WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave us alone. We don't like the truth.
The truth? Who can even know what that is anymore, much less think that it would be anywhere on this board?
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:56 PM
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facts are right biotronik liars! Lumax 340 VR-T , serial number 60480372...

translate the link below into english and read it!

http://www.sukl.sk/sk/zdravotnicke-p...-co-kg-nemecko
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:00 PM
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For those of you who can't translate

http://translate.google.com/translat...ko&sl=sk&tl=en
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:11 PM
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better yet... see for yourself

Dňa 12.05.2010 o 21.50 ŠÚKL dostal úvodné hlásenie od nemeckého výrobcu defibrilátora, spoločnosti Biotronik SE & Co. KG. Hlásenie sa týkalo zlyhania aktívnej implantovateľnej zdravotníckej pomôcky - defibrilátora typu Lumax 340 VR-T, výrobné číslo 60480372, ktorá sa stala v SR.
Výrobca v hlásení a následne aj ošetrujúci lekár uvádzajú, že po 1 mesiaci od implantácie defibrilátora vzniklo náhle poškodenie prístroja sprevádzané zvukovým efektom a malo charakter explózie, čo spôsobilo poranenie hrudníka pacienta. Pacient má lokálne komplikácie - popálenie kože v oblasti pôvodného umiestnenia prístroja, vzduch v podkoží a okolitých mäkkých tkanivách. Defibrilátor bol pacientovi explantovaný v Stredoslovenskom ústave srdcových a cievnych chorôb, a.s. (SÚSCCH a.s.) v deň zlyhania. Pri vizuálnej kontrole explantovaného prístroja bolo nájdené mechanické poškodenie - zväčšenie objemu a zmena tvaru prístroja, pričom vonkajšia makroskopická porucha integrity nebola zistená. Podľa výrobcu doteraz neboli hlásené žiadne podobné udalosti. Výrobca o nehode dobrovoľne informoval notifikovanú osobu NB 0123, TÜV SÜD Product Service GmbH.
Dňa 14.5.2010 predstavitelia výrobcu odobrali na mieste poškodený defibrilátor, ktorý bude podrobený analýze vo výrobnom závode v Nemecku. Výrobca na základe výsledkov analýzy prijme ďalšie nápravné opatrenia.
Pacient je v súčasnosti hospitalizovaný v Banskej Bystrici v SÚSCCH a.s. a je mimo ohrozenia života.
ŠÚKL analyzuje vzniknutú situáciu, spolupracuje so zdravotníckymi pracovníkmi SÚSCCH a.s., výrobcom a distribútorom v SR.
Do času, kedy budú známe výsledky analýzy zlyhania defibrilátora, ŠÚKL požiadal distribútora v SR o dočasné pozastavenie uvádzania defibrilátora na trh.







On 05/12/2010 21:50 SIDC received the initial report from a German manufacturer of defibrillators, the company Biotronik SE & Co.. KG. Report involved a failure of active implantable medical device - a type of defibrillator Lumax 340 VR-T, serial number 60480372, which has become in the. Manufacturer in the report and, subsequently, the treating physician indicates that after a month after defibrillator implantation was accompanied by a sudden damage to the device audio effect and had the characteristics of the explosion, which caused injury to the patient's chest. The patient has local complications - skin burn in the original location of the device, the air under the skin and surrounding soft tissue. Explantovaný defibrillator patient was in the center of Institute of Cardiovascular Disease, and (as SÚSCCH) on failure. The visual inspection explantovaného device was found mechanical damage - increase the volume and change the shape of the device, the external integrity of the macroscopic failure was detected. According to the manufacturer so far been no reports of similar events. The manufacturer voluntarily informed about the incident NB notified body 0123, TÜV SÜD Product Service GmbH. On 14/05/2010 manufacturer's representatives were taken on-site defibrillator is damaged, which will be analyzed at the factory in Germany. Producer on the results of the analysis will take additional corrective measures. The patient is currently hospitalized in Banska Bystrica and SÚSCCH in and out of danger to life. SIDC analyze the situation, working with healthcare professionals and SÚSCCH, manufacturer and distributor in Slovakia. Until such time as results are known defibrillator failure analysis, called a distributor in the SIDC SR to suspend marketing of the defibrillator market.
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:11 PM
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The device did not explode. The patient felt it heat up and at no time did the device fail or not deliver therapy. The device was explanted and replace with a new ICD. Patient and Physician are both pleased with results.

Once again you loose "Flame Boy"
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:20 PM
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Link please? I see nothing regarding your claims.
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:57 PM
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The device did not explode. The patient felt it heat up and at no time did the device fail or not deliver therapy. The device was explanted and replace with a new ICD. Patient and Physician are both pleased with results.

Once again you loose "Flame Boy"
oh really?? prove him wrong then. Looks like you knew about it all along...didn't cha? Were you also instructed what to say about it? ...reading your reply sounded like Bush's speeches..all coming through his ear piece! I bet you've said it like 1000 times since then..
crawl back into your cave dude, either accept the facts or if you chose to lie about it and act as it never happened then simply stick to it. Liar.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:37 PM
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Biotronik ICD's are failing in Europe. Any details?
Above is my original post. So, fu to all of you lying Nazis who said I was full of Sh*t.
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:55 PM
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Above is my original post. So, fu to all of you lying Nazis who said I was full of Sh*t.

You are full of shit you BSX stooge! The entire letter that you were informed of was written by the BSX Distributors country manager in Slovakia. Their has never been an official communication about this from the government.
Biotronik inspected the ICD and it was found to have a random component failure. No patient injury or adverse events occurred. The device was replaced and patient is doing fine.
Now if you don't believe me call the BSX Country Manager in Slovakia his name is
Mr. Pavel Bohdal. He is the Country Manager of the Boston Scientific distributorship in Slovakia!
You should also note that BSX reps in the US were informed to cease and desist in using this "marketing" approach due to slanderous and baseless accusations.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:56 PM
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Who is on that website? Looks like the government to me. It is a hoax?
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:59 PM
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www.sukl.sk

Government site, so the government let's a BSX distributor post on the site? I don't think they are that crooked, even in Slovakia. Maybe Germany, but not Slovakia.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:17 AM
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You are full of shit you BSX stooge! The entire letter that you were informed of was written by the BSX Distributors country manager in Slovakia. Their has never been an official communication about this from the government.
Biotronik inspected the ICD and it was found to have a random component failure. No patient injury or adverse events occurred. The device was replaced and patient is doing fine.
Now if you don't believe me call the BSX Country Manager in Slovakia his name is
Mr. Pavel Bohdal. He is the Country Manager of the Boston Scientific distributorship in Slovakia!
You should also note that BSX reps in the US were informed to cease and desist in using this "marketing" approach due to slanderous and baseless accusations.
All recalls begin with "random component failures". I'm a BSCI rep and learned about this failure on this board. I have not seen a cease and desist order. Just keep denying and covering up your issues. I'm sure it will work out for you.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:15 PM
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All recalls begin with "random component failures". I'm a BSCI rep and learned about this failure on this board. I have not seen a cease and desist order. Just keep denying and covering up your issues. I'm sure it will work out for you.
You are a mouthy looser. Why don't you call your lead council Dan Gerhan and get bitch slapped if and when you are caught spreading lies.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:53 PM
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You are a mouthy looser. Why don't you call your lead council Dan Gerhan and get bitch slapped if and when you are caught spreading lies.
Maybe I am a "looser". I'll have to look it up in the dictionary. In regards to the term "mouthy, it best describes a name-dropping loser such as yourself.

Try to sell a can next quarter. You will feel alot better about yourself and the world around you.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:03 PM
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Maybe I am a "looser". I'll have to look it up in the dictionary. In regards to the term "mouthy, it best describes a name-dropping loser such as yourself.

Try to sell a can next quarter. You will feel alot better about yourself and the world around you.
Ouch!!! But I made my point. You don't have the balls to call him because you know I'm right. I hope to sell 1 can this quarter. It will be 1 more can than you sell this year you mouthy looser!
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:25 AM
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I am a BSCI rep and we have been given direction to cease talking about this Biotronik presumed issue. Granted it was a lukewarm warning but nonetheless we were told. I think the other BSCI rep on her should just move along before he continues to make us all look bad. We are trying to change our image and you are not helping. We have a lot of faults of our own regarding denying device issues so I would not say a work. Until there is anything official against Bio or MDT ( who is having their own device issues as well) I would just stay quiet and take the high road and become the better person. I have not heard of any Bio issues and I have a physician who uses a lot of Bio and comes from Europe, he called over there and has not heard of anything so ....move along and get to work and quit wasting time debating something you know nothing about. Its reps like you that should realize that if you worked this hard on your day job then maybe you would sell more devices. Dont try and say you sell a lot otherwise you would not be on here trying to find dirt.
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:06 PM
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Wow. That may have been the biggest line of bull I have read for a while. Bravo!
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:29 PM
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It's LOSER you idiot, learn how to spell properly first.


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we have been given direction to cease talking about this Biotronik presumed issue.
of course you were...

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We are trying to change our image and you are not helping.
oh we try but your devices seem to dislike you a little...

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I have not heard of any Bio issues and I have a physician who uses a lot of Bio and comes from Europe, he called over there and has not heard of anything so
How would he hear anything about it if you have been given orders to "cease talking about it" ...hahahaha. Really, how does Biotronik pick their sales reps??? Is there some sort of questionaire you guys fill in? Do you actually get assessed from the HR dpt before they offer you the job? Now you might wonder what HR stands for...oh well, just forget it!

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....move along and get to work and quit wasting time debating something you know nothing about.
really now...is it us we know nothing about the issue? hahahaha


Last I heard MDT just released "advisa mri" and "protecta xt", the two devices that have already sent all other companies back to square 1. In terms of technological advancements medtronic is 7 years ahead of everybody else in the market, including us!! And if it weren't for you stealing MDT and St Jude manuals, biotronik as well as some other manufacturers out there would simply not exist.
You should not talk about MDT issues unless you have some proof first. And if you do find some proof that people don't already know of, or that MDT has not admitted already OR fixed, then chose the appropriate threat to make your post.

Admitting your mistakes or even failures is what makes you better, covering ups never worked.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:18 PM
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It's LOSER you idiot, learn how to spell properly first.


of course you were...


oh we try but your devices seem to dislike you a little...


How would he hear anything about it if you have been given orders to "cease talking about it" ...hahahaha. Really, how does Biotronik pick their sales reps??? Is there some sort of questionaire you guys fill in? Do you actually get assessed from the HR dpt before they offer you the job? Now you might wonder what HR stands for...oh well, just forget it!


really now...is it us we know nothing about the issue? hahahaha


Last I heard MDT just released "advisa mri" and "protecta xt", the two devices that have already sent all other companies back to square 1. In terms of technological advancements medtronic is 7 years ahead of everybody else in the market, including us!! And if it weren't for you stealing MDT and St Jude manuals, biotronik as well as some other manufacturers out there would simply not exist.
You should not talk about MDT issues unless you have some proof first. And if you do find some proof that people don't already know of, or that MDT has not admitted already OR fixed, then chose the appropriate threat to make your post.

Admitting your mistakes or even failures is what makes you better, covering ups never worked.
Let me just start by saying that the post was written by a BSCI rep not a Bio rep so I think this all should go in the MDT or BSX threads... that said if you work for MDT than you are a LOSER that can't sell shit and you know it! The company does all the selling for you and if you have a half decent competitive rep in your territory than you are in 3rd place...
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Old 06-30-2010, 05:25 PM
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I'm not a sales rep mate. Ass licking for selling cans is for you, not for me.
Research Engineering is what I do and my team and I fkn rule at it. We get paid shit loads to research, develop and mainly reinvent the wheell at a daily basis...that leaves you behind!

So, next time be more careful of what you claim, headless moron. I am even surprised you got to answer the spam verification question successfully!

Anyway, I got enough pleasure watching you ass-licking sales reps, and marketing spy-geeks skinning and eating each other alive over something you can never call your own, pawns at a job you never really had.

Over and out.
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:43 PM
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I'm not a sales rep mate. Ass licking for selling cans is for you, not for me.
Research Engineering is what I do and my team and I fkn rule at it. We get paid shit loads to research, develop and mainly reinvent the wheell at a daily basis...that leaves you behind!

So, next time be more careful of what you claim, headless moron. I am even surprised you got to answer the spam verification question successfully!

Anyway, I got enough pleasure watching you ass-licking sales reps, and marketing spy-geeks skinning and eating each other alive over something you can never call your own, pawns at a job you never really had.

Over and out.
Oy Mate!(sounding as queer as a gay pirate can)

You must be a bloody ripper!

The quote above proves my point...

Engineer even worse than I thought...
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:25 AM
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Ouch!!! But I made my point. You don't have the balls to call him because you know I'm right. I hope to sell 1 can this quarter. It will be 1 more can than you sell this year you mouthy looser!
You were a failure at BSX. STJ and MDT didn't want you, and now you continue to fail at BIO. It's no wonder that you are angry and frustrated. You're just not cut out for sales. Try something else.

Or...You can stick round for the imminent recall and use that as an excuse for your shortcomings.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:37 PM
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You are a mouthy looser. Why don't you call your lead council Dan Gerhan and get bitch slapped if and when you are caught spreading lies.

http://europace.oxfordjournals.org/c...uq338.abstract

Biotronik threats regarding trying to cover up this case study are idle. I think the pictures speak for themselves.
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