Let's keep count of the Oncology Reps that quit each week...

How many and where were they located?

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How many and where were they located?

I heard 7 this week and all from the east. My AM is looking as well.

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I heard 7 this week and all from the east. My AM is looking as well.

Banner week!

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A whole bunch quit today!

Yeah, the "Leadership" spin when you bring up the fact that 6 quit last week is that "We expected it...no surprise because Incyte put out their offers." As if that makes it better!

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Yeah, the "Leadership" spin when you bring up the fact that 6 quit last week is that "We expected it...no surprise because Incyte put out their offers." As if that makes it better!

Matt will continue to speak out of his ass until we are all gone.

It's Monday!

Another one bites the dust,
Another one bites the dust,
And another gone,
And another gone,
Another one bites the dust, hey-hey!

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It's Monday!

Another one bites the dust,
Another one bites the dust,
And another gone,
And another gone,
Another one bites the dust, hey-hey!

what areas?

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what areas?

Does it make a difference which area? We all hate it here and we are all looking to leave!

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It's Monday!

Another one bites the dust,
Another one bites the dust,
And another gone,
And another gone,
Another one bites the dust, hey-hey!

Thursday and another one gone.

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Thursday and another one gone.

And this Thursday another!

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And this Thursday another!

Who was the smart soul that left?

2 or 3 this week

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2 or 3 this week

BB

All the smart ones have left

Is Dave M. (DM in east coast) still around?

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All the smart ones have left

That includes management as well!

More quitting soon! I guess that's good news for CNS

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More quitting soon! I guess that's good news for CNS

CNS built this company bud. Old Provigil reps went to Oncology after years of getting their teeth kicked in, and won PC as Oncology reps.

10% of reps selling anything are better, 80% are massive middle, and 10% are worthless.

That is universal within any sales force in the world, regardless of product.

Dropping in CNS as well, people are getting tired of not knowing any specifics.

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Dropping in CNS as well, people are getting tired of not knowing any specifics.

Less severence to pay.

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Dropping in CNS as well, people are getting tired of not knowing any specifics.

Really, people are quitting because the dont know any specifics? Sure. You aren't trying to use reverse psychology on the upper mgmt are you? How sneaky, hee hee. They will se your post and say "oh no, people are quitting because we arent telling them specifics." Then, they realize their mistakes and tell us everything and all of their plans. Great work, hee hee, I think this is going to work.

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Really, people are quitting because the dont know any specifics? Sure. You aren't trying to use reverse psychology on the upper mgmt are you? How sneaky, hee hee. They will se your post and say "oh no, people are quitting because we arent telling them specifics." Then, they realize their mistakes and tell us everything and all of their plans. Great work, hee hee, I think this is going to work.

That may be true given the uncertain nature at present within oncology. These people have left for many reasons that include the above, compliance audits, greater opportunity with equity, management turnover with present leadership that has shown questionable managerial skills, no advancement opportunity, MBOs and not pay-for-performance and lack of Medical support with clinical trials and new publications.

It is all a recipe for doom and gloom which is what we are experiencing. Either live with it or find something else. This is the true nature of our industry today.

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More quitting soon! I guess that's good news for CNS

Maybe all will leave and the "Rep Monitoring Program" will be complete.


ABC-Anyplace But Cephalon

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That may be true given the uncertain nature at present within oncology. These people have left for many reasons that include the above, compliance audits, greater opportunity with equity, management turnover with present leadership that has shown questionable managerial skills, no advancement opportunity, MBOs and not pay-for-performance and lack of Medical support with clinical trials and new publications.

It is all a recipe for doom and gloom which is what we are experiencing. Either live with it or find something else. This is the true nature of our industry today.

NO---This is the true nature of life here at CEPHALON........

Another?

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Another?

Another!

one RD gone in the new year. Gotta love Matt and his weirdness

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one RD gone in the new year. Gotta love Matt and his weirdness

What was up with that g-top call? Can he do anything right?

BB

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Onyx
Incyte
Regeneron

This is where we will all soon be going.

Yup, another quit this week!

Shankster!!!!

It is all part of the 'new' model. Demoralize the 'old' reps.

Where did the Shankster go?

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Where did the Shankster go?

BB chased him away!

Who will come work here?

Shankster and Claudia are gone..great reps and people.... Many companies wanted them why let them go? why not make this a place where they would want to stay?

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Who will come work here?

Shankster and Claudia are gone..great reps and people.... Many companies wanted them why let them go? why not make this a place where they would want to stay?

Because we have a vp and sales director who are poor managers and have little awareness due to apathy. The defections will continue in earnest. Teva is blind.

BB

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Who will come work here?

Shankster and Claudia are gone..great reps and people.... Many companies wanted them why let them go? why not make this a place where they would want to stay?

CE in the Bay Area is gone.....more to come....

Teva just hired a crapload of reps and MSL's for oncology. They probably aren't too worried about reps quitting.

BB!

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BB!

I think ME has to be worse than BB. Total big pharma cheerleader and can't sell heat to an Eskimo.

BB

Dropping like flies!

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Dropping like flies!

Nobody cares. Seriously....we don't care. No players over there.

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Nobody cares. Seriously....we don't care. No players over there.

So called the Sr Oncology reps are there because they could not get hired elsewhere!. Get over yourselves.

Two more this week

After that conference call, we all better be looking for an out!

But True North will save us! What a clusterfuck of management.

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So called the Sr Oncology reps are there because they could not get hired elsewhere!. Get over yourselves.

Listen Bozo..... There are limited opportunities in Oncology today. There are parts of the country which are great places to reside resulting in less turnover. Veteran Oncology reps keep their ears to the ground and have good intelligence on hiring managers. A thinking person is not going to work for a manager with a bad reputation no matter how good the company is, furthermore many veteran Oncology reps are not desperate to make a move but to make the right move. Your quote "get over yourselves" is one filled with jealousy and quite frankly a "a show up and throw up moment". Look at the companies out there..do you know what is happening at Spectrum? Alexion? etc.....I bet you don't, I bet you don't know what they market. The cultures there are brutal..... Not getting hired elsewhere is not the issue. A good opportunity is the issue and quite frankly a lot us were offered jobs from other companies but those opportunities didn't measure up. "Great Opportunities" are few and far between these days in Oncology. Feel blessed that you..a blow hard, idiot was allowed into Oncology. You are most likely surrounded by people who are new to Oncology so you will never know what it's really like and you will never have the depth to speak toe to toe with an Oncologist on a variety of different issues. Feel blessed you work for Teva Oncology, a company well positioned for the future especially considering where healthcare is heading. The Oncology pipeline is a very good one and the Teva culture is amounting to one of the best out there. You don't have a clue...I hope you amount to something..

Another homily by our leader who never spent a day in the field and never will. After this gig he should consider motivational speaking engagements on infomercials.