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Old 12-12-2011, 12:06 AM
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Wow! Not that this info is too surprising, but has anyone caught wind of the price of the upcoming diabetes game changer? The product is a great idea and is much needed for the target market. Too bad it will be stalled out of the gates by the choice to charge more than the market can bear. Honestly, how long can the decision makers keep making these ignorant mistakes and keep their jobs?
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:40 PM
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I assume you're talking about the mythical MySentry. How much are they charging for it?
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:08 PM
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I assume you're talking about the mythical MySentry. How much are they charging for it?
The price doesn't really matter. There are so many unhappy RTS wearers out there now, what difference will this new piece of crap do. I don't see it being an issue. False alarms rule with the current system, now lets spread them around so others can hear them too.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:47 PM
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The price doesn't really matter. There are so many unhappy RTS wearers out there now, what difference will this new piece of crap do. I don't see it being an issue. False alarms rule with the current system, now lets spread them around so others can hear them too.
My son has worn the sensor for almost 4 years now. It's not perfect, but it's better than not having one at all.

I've heard the rumors that reps are being trained on MySentry now and am curious as to how much it will cost. We can't hear the alarms at night for crap, so it will make a big difference for us.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:24 PM
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My son has worn the sensor for almost 4 years now. It's not perfect, but it's better than not having one at all.

I've heard the rumors that reps are being trained on MySentry now and am curious as to how much it will cost. We can't hear the alarms at night for crap, so it will make a big difference for us.
Really glad it works for your son. Almost everybody I see in a week who has used an RTS has stopped using them due to poor matching with the glucose machine they are using. False lows, false highs, I have heard them all. Seldom has anybody been happen. So we did what we were told, direct them to the Helpline....yet that didn't help either. Glad it works for your son. It doesn't work for most.
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:12 AM
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Really glad it works for your son. Almost everybody I see in a week who has used an RTS has stopped using them due to poor matching with the glucose machine they are using. False lows, false highs, I have heard them all. Seldom has anybody been happen. So we did what we were told, direct them to the Helpline....yet that didn't help either. Glad it works for your son. It doesn't work for most.
Yeah, I think we're the only family at our endo's office who uses one. Between spotty insurance coverage and it being a...finicky device, I do understand why people give up on it. The helpline is really useless with it. We learned through trial and error. LOTS of trial and error. It really shouldn't take as much fiddling around with it as it does to get good results.

Unfortunately, the early reviews I've read of Enlite aren't much better. At least the needle is smaller.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:39 PM
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If C8 MediSensors gets this thing to market, this will be the real game changer.

http://www.diabetesmine.com/2011/10/...martphone.html

http://www.c8medisensors.com/us/home.html
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:18 AM
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If C8 MediSensors gets this thing to market, this will be the real game changer.

http://www.diabetesmine.com/2011/10/...martphone.html

http://www.c8medisensors.com/us/home.html
This has real teeth. GE invested in them this month. I guarantee you they did their diligence.

http://www.massdevice.com/news/diabe...unding-roundup
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:24 PM
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This has real teeth. GE invested in them this month. I guarantee you they did their diligence.

http://www.massdevice.com/news/diabe...unding-roundup
This technology was highlighted at AADE in 2002. It's time it comes to life.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:59 PM
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If anyone cares, cash price for mySentry is $2400. Unbelievable.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:10 PM
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If anyone cares, cash price for mySentry is $2400. Unbelievable.
That is unbelievable. I would have been willing to pay twice that knowing my son is safe throughout the night. So glad I chose Medtronic and ignored the lies and sales tactics of Dexcom. The Dexcom rep in our area was always so pushy and bitter.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:53 PM
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Dexcim has superior CGM. Don't take my word for it, read posts on forums by users. Only advantage Medtronic has is insurance coverage.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:33 PM
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Dexcim has superior CGM. Don't take my word for it, read posts on forums by users. Only advantage Medtronic has is insurance coverage.
Wow! You are just like the moron Dexcum sales rep in my territory who uses blogs and forums as her sources. How about posting a minimum of two clinical trials that back up your claim. And if you discount the advantage of the MDT CGM communicating with a pump, you are even a bigger idiot. The sensor without a pump is like a car without a steering wheel. No need to cite a blog or forum, I can cite a dozen clinical trials on that claim.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:14 PM
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Wow! You are just like the moron Dexcum sales rep in my territory who uses blogs and forums as her sources. How about posting a minimum of two clinical trials that back up your claim. And if you discount the advantage of the MDT CGM communicating with a pump, you are even a bigger idiot. The sensor without a pump is like a car without a steering wheel. No need to cite a blog or forum, I can cite a dozen clinical trials on that claim.
Listen to your patients/customers. Attrition is high due to people dumping RTS for many reasons, accuracy is one of the biggest. "The sensor without a pump is like"...a Guardian.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:39 PM
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Listen to your patients/customers. Attrition is high due to people dumping RTS for many reasons, accuracy is one of the biggest. "The sensor without a pump is like"...a Guardian.
I have never and will never sell a Guardian for the very reason I posted above. The only noise level of accuracy is from Dexcum reps running their mouths without proof. If I continually called you a loser to your customers, eventually all your customers would think you are a loser. Your only advantage is smaller needle size and the fact that you give them away for free. Until your patient population is large enough to calculate a p-value, shut up! Or at least show a proof source for once in your life. The sad part is that I know the limitations of a Guardian/Dexcum system and you do not. You would sell crap in a bag if that is all you had. Wait! That is all you have. And remember who makes the jack here sister. We wipe our butts with your total comp!
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:00 PM
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I have never and will never sell a Guardian for the very reason I posted above. The only noise level of accuracy is from Dexcum reps running their mouths without proof. If I continually called you a loser to your customers, eventually all your customers would think you are a loser. Your only advantage is smaller needle size and the fact that you give them away for free. Until your patient population is large enough to calculate a p-value, shut up! Or at least show a proof source for once in your life. The sad part is that I know the limitations of a Guardian/Dexcum system and you do not. You would sell crap in a bag if that is all you had. Wait! That is all you have. And remember who makes the jack here sister. We wipe our butts with your total comp!
You still don't get it. Look at the attrition numbers. Most of Medtronic patients go off sensor within two months. That's not the case with Dexcom. Patients stay on product with Dexcom.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:30 AM
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You still don't get it. Look at the attrition numbers. Most of Medtronic patients go off sensor within two months. That's not the case with Dexcom. Patients stay on product with Dexcom.
Post your numbers or shut up! Stop citing blogs and forums. I "get it". I get that you Dexcum reps have no data to prove what you say so you talk about MDT attrition numbers (which actual data you do not know or have).

"Hey doctor, althought I have ZERO proof, your colleagues are finding Dexcum to be more accurate. This is evident by the number of people who stop using their MDT sensors".

Really. How about "Doctor, the vast research we have at our fingertips at Dexcum demonstrate unequivocally that the Dexcum is superior to ..."

YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT EMPTY PROMISES AND SIMPLE OBSERVATIONS!

Hold on, I just wiped again with your week's wages! Post on your own board. Oh wait, your company of 200 employees has never been recognized to merit a board.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:23 AM
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Post your numbers or shut up! Stop citing blogs and forums. I "get it". I get that you Dexcum reps have no data to prove what you say so you talk about MDT attrition numbers (which actual data you do not know or have).

"Hey doctor, althought I have ZERO proof, your colleagues are finding Dexcum to be more accurate. This is evident by the number of people who stop using their MDT sensors".

Really. How about "Doctor, the vast research we have at our fingertips at Dexcum demonstrate unequivocally that the Dexcum is superior to ..."

YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT EMPTY PROMISES AND SIMPLE OBSERVATIONS!

Hold on, I just wiped again with your week's wages! Post on your own board. Oh wait, your company of 200 employees has never been recognized to merit a board.
Hey Dumb Ass.....I work in a clinic, not for Dexcom. We listen to our patients. They have nothing but bad reports about your sensors. The Medtronic rep comes around talking about studies, yet our own patients tell the true story. We listen to our patients. I know about attrition due to a friend who works for Medtronic not to mention all the patient we have that have tried RTS and went off. Word gets around. So unless you can live up to the fact that people don't stay on product, shut up with your lies. As for your pay, you are strictly an over paid talk a lot who pushes crap. The pump is outdated, it is the only device that communicates crap data. mySentry is an over priced loud alarm for the entire house to hear the bad data. iPro 2 is fine. Carelink Pro is great yet you screw the patients by making them see Carelink Personal. At least Dexcom does listen to what people say. Tandem does too.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:56 AM
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Hey Dumb Ass.....I work in a clinic, not for Dexcom. We listen to our patients. They have nothing but bad reports about your sensors. The Medtronic rep comes around talking about studies, yet our own patients tell the true story. We listen to our patients. I know about attrition due to a friend who works for Medtronic not to mention all the patient we have that have tried RTS and went off. Word gets around. So unless you can live up to the fact that people don't stay on product, shut up with your lies. As for your pay, you are strictly an over paid talk a lot who pushes crap. The pump is outdated, it is the only device that communicates crap data. mySentry is an over priced loud alarm for the entire house to hear the bad data. iPro 2 is fine. Carelink Pro is great yet you screw the patients by making them see Carelink Personal. At least Dexcom does listen to what people say. Tandem does too.
Yeah, because you have extensive knowledge with Tandem and their reps also. Whatever! I wish I had someone like you in one of my clinics. A know it all who knows everyone and does no wrong.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:55 PM
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Yeah, because you have extensive knowledge with Tandem and their reps also. Whatever! I wish I had someone like you in one of my clinics. A know it all who knows everyone and does no wrong.
Oh I never said I know it all, but I do know more than many. I wish you came into my clinic. I would discuss all the patients that came off RTS, stayed on their Revel, and switched to Dexcom. You know attrition stinks yet will not admit it. What are the current stats for the company now? 40%? Or has it gone down.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:11 PM
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Oh I never said I know it all, but I do know more than many. I wish you came into my clinic. I would discuss all the patients that came off RTS, stayed on their Revel, and switched to Dexcom. You know attrition stinks yet will not admit it. What are the current stats for the company now? 40%? Or has it gone down.
When I was there, attrition was around 35 to 40%. I haven't been gone long so I don't figure it has changed much.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:11 PM
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I have been a diabetic since 1976. whoever you people are you are incredible. The problem I see with data is just a number game. Statistics are numbers that can be pushed in any direction you want. I have been a pumper for twelve years now and have seen some incredible things come and go. I have just received my Revel system and can not wait to start using a CGM again. I had no problems with my numbers with My Dexcom system except for the small problem of being allergic to the adhesive to the sites. Customer care for the Dexcom system was great until I had a problem with the adhesive that left a red weeping wound were the site was. Multiple attempts to talk to someone at Dexcom who understood what I was going through. I am a Certified Emergency Room Nurse and have many resources at hand and could not fix my problem. I was forced to stop using when I developed a severe skin infection from the adhesive problem. I have heard a lot of negatives about Mini med, but I also lived through the dunking of my Dexcom Receiver in a glass of water next to my bed one evening. again not a perfect system. I have worn Diesetronic, Cozmo, Animas, and soon my newest Minimed Revel. Numbers are just that, I have used a Clinitest urine system to test sugars, my first Glucose meter was the size of a brick. I think that you folks should agree to disagree and move on. For tomorrow there will be another better brighter system that hopefully cures this horrible disease that I and many folks live with called DIABETES. Thanks for your time.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:11 PM
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I have been a diabetic since 1976. whoever you people are you are incredible. The problem I see with data is just a number game. Statistics are numbers that can be pushed in any direction you want. I have been a pumper for twelve years now and have seen some incredible things come and go. I have just received my Revel system and can not wait to start using a CGM again. I had no problems with my numbers with My Dexcom system except for the small problem of being allergic to the adhesive to the sites. Customer care for the Dexcom system was great until I had a problem with the adhesive that left a red weeping wound were the site was. Multiple attempts to talk to someone at Dexcom who understood what I was going through. I am a Certified Emergency Room Nurse and have many resources at hand and could not fix my problem. I was forced to stop using when I developed a severe skin infection from the adhesive problem. I have heard a lot of negatives about Mini med, but I also lived through the dunking of my Dexcom Receiver in a glass of water next to my bed one evening. again not a perfect system. I have worn Diesetronic, Cozmo, Animas, and soon my newest Minimed Revel. Numbers are just that, I have used a Clinitest urine system to test sugars, my first Glucose meter was the size of a brick. I think that you folks should agree to disagree and move on. For tomorrow there will be another better brighter system that hopefully cures this horrible disease that I and many folks live with called DIABETES. Thanks for your time.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:22 AM
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I have been a diabetic since 1976. whoever you people are you are incredible. The problem I see with data is just a number game. Statistics are numbers that can be pushed in any direction you want. I have been a pumper for twelve years now and have seen some incredible things come and go. I have just received my Revel system and can not wait to start using a CGM again. I had no problems with my numbers with My Dexcom system except for the small problem of being allergic to the adhesive to the sites. Customer care for the Dexcom system was great until I had a problem with the adhesive that left a red weeping wound were the site was. Multiple attempts to talk to someone at Dexcom who understood what I was going through. I am a Certified Emergency Room Nurse and have many resources at hand and could not fix my problem. I was forced to stop using when I developed a severe skin infection from the adhesive problem. I have heard a lot of negatives about Mini med, but I also lived through the dunking of my Dexcom Receiver in a glass of water next to my bed one evening. again not a perfect system. I have worn Diesetronic, Cozmo, Animas, and soon my newest Minimed Revel. Numbers are just that, I have used a Clinitest urine system to test sugars, my first Glucose meter was the size of a brick. I think that you folks should agree to disagree and move on. For tomorrow there will be another better brighter system that hopefully cures this horrible disease that I and many folks live with called DIABETES. Thanks for your time.
Quality post. Please accept my apologies on behalf of those who post on this site. It seems the site is more to blow off steam and is not intended for anything else.
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