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Old 08-10-2012, 07:24 AM
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Anyone being placed on other Publicis contracts?
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:34 PM
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interviewing for an open position but thats about it. i hope they really do the best they can to place us somewhere else. i have always heard publicis really does try to help out their reps.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:55 PM
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interviewing for an open position but thats about it. i hope they really do the best they can to place us somewhere else. i have always heard publicis really does try to help out their reps.
Since OCEAN sales force was over 450 reps, Publicis recruiters are placing OCEAN reps where new contract opportunities are coming.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:11 AM
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Good luck. Best wishes!
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:04 PM
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Anyone being placed on other Publicis contracts?
I was placed on a contract opening in my territory this week (big relief). I heard there is potential on a CNS product contract and we hopefully should be contacted by our manager or the recruiters soon. Best wishes everyone, I am prayer for all the good people on this team to find a home.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:54 PM
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I was placed on a contract opening in my territory this week (big relief). I heard there is potential on a CNS product contract and we hopefully should be contacted by our manager or the recruiters soon. Best wishes everyone, I am prayer for all the good people on this team to find a home.
Good, and I am happy for you and thanks for wishing the rest of OCEAN well with Publicis placing us on other contracts. Did you have to formally apply and interview for your new contract position or did Publicis place you in it automatically? The Publicis recruiters have the Ocean team roster and are supposed to be looking at other contract opportunities for us.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:16 PM
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I was placed on a contract opening in my territory this week (big relief). I heard there is potential on a CNS product contract and we hopefully should be contacted by our manager or the recruiters soon. Best wishes everyone, I am prayer for all the good people on this team to find a home.
does anyone have any news as to when the cns contract may start? I have been contacted by a publicis recruiter for another position so i am thankful for that as well. i appreciate the effort publicis is exhibiting to help place us.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:43 AM
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Good, and I am happy for you and thanks for wishing the rest of OCEAN well with Publicis placing us on other contracts. Did you have to formally apply and interview for your new contract position or did Publicis place you in it automatically? The Publicis recruiters have the Ocean team roster and are supposed to be looking at other contract opportunities for us.
Both... I was told by my manager to apply for anything posted online. Also,a recruiter reached out to the hiring DM about candidates. Yes, I had to interview (it was not a stressful one) so have your resume and brag book prepared. I really hope everyone lands in the BEST place for you and your family. Good Luck
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:47 AM
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does anyone have any news as to when the cns contract may start? I have been contacted by a publicis recruiter for another position so i am thankful for that as well. i appreciate the effort publicis is exhibiting to help place us.
I think we are suppose to find out more info on this on Monday. I will post with what we find out. Best of Luck with everything and try to stay positive (I know that can be a challendge).
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:57 AM
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It all seems a bit strange to me. I don't have the CNS experince they are looking for but, talk of a new contract, who has anythng new in CNS worth a dam, and a gut feeling. Could this be a ploy to keep us somewhat motivated and still try to make our 7-12 calls a day? For those that interviewed and got offers, what company and what drugs? I wouldn't think management would like to see anyone leaving an Ocean spot open untill the end of the contract in Mid. Sept. I smell something stinky coming out of HQ like a about these openings like it's B.S. I hope I'm wrong. We are all good people and performed exceptionally for AZ. God bless us all and our families.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:15 AM
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i would be glad to consider CNS/medical device. We all did a great job for AZ.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:44 AM
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Just got placed on the AZ Gemini contract. Consider myself lucky even if it only goes through March 1st.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:57 PM
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I wish everyone the best of luck moving forward. With that said, I would proceed with extreme caution with this company. You have to question any contract after what is happening with the Ocean contract. We STILL don't have our Q2 bonus info. and they are claiming they will mail us a check in Nov. for our next bonus? Also, think about the way they have handled this whole contract from the start. The managers never know anything, spend way too much on ride alongs, and never adding any coaching or positive feedback. Just my 2 cents. I am moving on with a real company and hope the rest of you can find something better than Publicis.
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:29 PM
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Just got placed on the AZ Gemini contract. Consider myself lucky even if it only goes through March 1st.
Did a Publicis recruiter call you? Gemini is the only sales force promoting Dutoprol and Vimovo. DM says recruiters are working diligently to place all of us on another contract.
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:50 PM
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what about the medical device contract? did you get called?
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:03 PM
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Did a Publicis recruiter call you? Gemini is the only sales force promoting Dutoprol and Vimovo. DM says recruiters are working diligently to place all of us on another contract.
We are already Publicis employees. They don't have to worry about doing background checks or long drawn out interviews. The recruiters should be able to place us into openings as they occur in our areas.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:16 AM
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We are already Publicis employees. They don't have to worry about doing background checks or long drawn out interviews. The recruiters should be able to place us into openings as they occur in our areas.
We sure hope so. This economy is devastating without a paycheck.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:37 PM
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We sure hope so. This economy is devastating without a paycheck.
It doesn't have to be.

We do it to ourselves, with our high standard of living and other BS.

The paycheck does help though!
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:04 PM
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What if we all just stopped making calls? I mean really stopped making calls. This means no imput in computer and no signature or sample activity? If one of us does it you have ended your career sooner than end date. If everybody does it then what? By the number of reps that use this for their source of info. I would think this could have an impact. Your thoughts welcomed.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:14 PM
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If you are still making calls, shame on you. You should be sending out resumes and trying to find your next opportunity. We have zero incentive to keep making the calls. Is 2000 really going to motivate you, especially when they haven't payed out for Q2 yet? I hope I am not the only one who thinks this way. Use up your vacation and personal days and work hard at getting interviews and have fun explaining why this job only lasted a year. I have had fun explaining Publicis in interviews and it really helps that we don't have any numbers or rankings to share. What a joke.

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Old 08-13-2012, 08:15 PM
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Just ask your manager for a rankings report. They have access to it.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:36 PM
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If you are still making calls, shame on you. You should be sending out resumes and trying to find your next opportunity. We have zero incentive to keep making the calls. Is 2000 really going to motivate you, especially when they haven't payed out for Q2 yet? I hope I am not the only one who thinks this way. Use up your vacation and personal days and work hard at getting interviews and have fun explaining why this job only lasted a year. I have had fun explaining Publicis in interviews and it really helps that we don't have any numbers or rankings to share. What a joke.

Clemson Sucks
I'm still some making calls, but I'm also being as efficient as I've ever been! What amazes me is the amount of field rides my manager is still doing and planning. I believe he plans on being out with us right up until the very end! I'm curious if other DMs are acting completely like it's "business-as-usual". If some in our district leave a little early due to other job offers, I'm wondering if our DM is going to double-up and get out with the remaining reps even more! You'd think the DMs would be interested in lining up another job as well!
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:45 PM
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Good luck finding ajob there really are not many out there. Too many people looking wanting one job opening.
Hoping we get a new president in office and can turn this economy around.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:21 PM
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Good luck finding ajob there really are not many out there. Too many people looking wanting one job opening.
Hoping we get a new president in office and can turn this economy around.
Roger that.
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:40 PM
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Roger that.
Yeah, I'll take the Mormon over the moron.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:54 PM
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We sure hope so. This economy is devastating without a paycheck.
New contracts are being negotiated, and Publicis recruiters will be trying hard to get as many Ocean reps placed as possible. Some have already moved to other Pub contracts or AZ positions.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:02 PM
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I'm still some making calls, but I'm also being as efficient as I've ever been! What amazes me is the amount of field rides my manager is still doing and planning. I believe he plans on being out with us right up until the very end! I'm curious if other DMs are acting completely like it's "business-as-usual". If some in our district leave a little early due to other job offers, I'm wondering if our DM is going to double-up and get out with the remaining reps even more! You'd think the DMs would be interested in lining up another job as well!

I am making calls in the morning, leaving time in the afternoon to send out resumes. Working keeps my mind off things.
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:16 PM
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I think publicis will pull through. i really believe they have some contracts brewing. and i have seen them doing their very best to help reps out where there are opening.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:24 AM
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I think publicis will pull through. i really believe they have some contracts brewing. and i have seen them doing their very best to help reps out where there are opening.
I have talked with 2 different Publicis recruiters and there some things in the works with new contracts. It may take a little while past Sept 18th, but many of us will be placed. Its easier and wiser for the client company and and Publicis to place us over outside candidates.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:57 AM
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Do you think you can handle the truth? Looking at new contracts is like saying, "I buy lottery tickets in hopes of winning." Preference over other outside canidates. Not that much of a cost to drug test and interview. I am hopeful that I am wrong and we get something sooner rather than later. With these facts, it's very grim that anything will happen soon. I would not wait around to hope something gets signed or whatever for future business. Don't pin all your hopes of new contract and decide not to look for job now. Prepair for the future of your career only you can do this not anybody else.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:16 PM
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Do you think you can handle the truth? Looking at new contracts is like saying, "I buy lottery tickets in hopes of winning." Preference over other outside canidates. Not that much of a cost to drug test and interview. I am hopeful that I am wrong and we get something sooner rather than later. With these facts, it's very grim that anything will happen soon. I would not wait around to hope something gets signed or whatever for future business. Don't pin all your hopes of new contract and decide not to look for job now. Prepair for the future of your career only you can do this not anybody else.
We all knew this would be a one year gig at this time last year when we were hired. It's a wonder that AZ did not pull this contract when generic atorvastatin started booming. I do know of several Ocean reps who are now going onto other contracts and were given preference over outsiders. It is happening, to what extent from here on out, one can only speculate. I wouldn't write Publicis off just yet. We are employees and are in the system.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:15 AM
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Do you think you can handle the truth? Looking at new contracts is like saying, "I buy lottery tickets in hopes of winning." Preference over other outside canidates. Not that much of a cost to drug test and interview. I am hopeful that I am wrong and we get something sooner rather than later. With these facts, it's very grim that anything will happen soon. I would not wait around to hope something gets signed or whatever for future business. Don't pin all your hopes of new contract and decide not to look for job now. Prepair for the future of your career only you can do this not anybody else.
The real advantage is that they know the true quality of the OCEAN reps,good/bad,through field contact reports,as opposed to hiring someone new.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:03 AM
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The real advantage is that they know the true quality of the OCEAN reps,good/bad,through field contact reports,as opposed to hiring someone new.
This is very true. The Ocean reps were hired a year ago because they were all seasoned experienced rep. 450 were brought on board to increase new rxs for Crestor, and this was a very large contract for Publicis. The Ocean team did deliver positive reports, and the contract will run for a full year so they have a good idea about the caliber of the Ocean reps. There are some positive things in the works. It may take some time, but Publicis recruiting job is to place quality reps with the client company. You are right, They do know about us, and I believe the majority of us will land on another good contract.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:51 PM
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I do believe they will do the best to place us but it may take awhile, could even be next June. I wouldn't wait, I would be looking. Anyone try medical home health sales? I found an opening and they were looking for pharma reps.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:56 AM
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I do believe they will do the best to place us but it may take awhile, could even be next June. I wouldn't wait, I would be looking. Anyone try medical home health sales? I found an opening and they were looking for pharma reps.
It shouldn't take that long. My DM communicates with the Pub recruiters almost daily. New positions are being posted every day on the Pub website. When one pops up in your area, go for it if you are interested. Yes, this was a very large contract and many talented Ocean reps should be very viable candidates for open contract positions.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:11 PM
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It shouldn't take that long. My DM communicates with the Pub recruiters almost daily. New positions are being posted every day on the Pub website. When one pops up in your area, go for it if you are interested. Yes, this was a very large contract and many talented Ocean reps should be very viable candidates for open contract positions.
Yeah, they seem to be working to place as many of us as they can right now, but what will it be like after Sept 18th when everything is over?
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:26 PM
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any news of the possibility of a new contract that could start before the end of the year?
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:26 PM
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any news of the possibility of a new contract that could start before the end of the year?
CNS in the works.
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:28 PM
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CNS in the works.
Any updates on the CNS project
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:25 PM
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Any updates on the CNS project
More positions are being posted each day on the pub web. Keep checking. New contracts and positions are coming down, maybe not overly fast, but they are coming.
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:34 PM
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I'll take whatever they give me, but the reality is that contract world is not a career, I need to find something with a longer time horizon than just a year.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:14 AM
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I'll take whatever they give me, but the reality is that contract world is not a career, I need to find something with a longer time horizon than just a year.
Many big pharma companies, ie, GSK, Lilly, are only hiring for fixed duration positions like two years max, so what's the real difference. I know of several OCEAN reps who have already been placed in other contract positions in their respective areas or placed in a permanent position with AZ. When an opportunity for another Pub contract comes your way, go for it. The recruiters are very good about getting OCEAN reps in front of the hiring manager. They do want to place as many of us as possible.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:57 PM
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Only benefits or perfered treatment that an Ocean rep might get is cuts at the unemployment line. Get back in line with the rest of the cattle if an opening pops in your area.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:33 AM
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Only benefits or perfered treatment that an Ocean rep might get is cuts at the unemployment line. Get back in line with the rest of the cattle if an opening pops in your area.
That's not totally true. I know of 2 ocean reps who were slotted in right away on other Publicis contracts. A lot depends on the recruiter.
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:08 AM
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hopefully we will get some direction as to future contracts BEFORE this contract ends. I agree that once it all shuts down it may be more difficult to feel connected to what is going on with publicis.
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:42 AM
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hopefully we will get some direction as to future contracts BEFORE this contract ends. I agree that once it all shuts down it may be more difficult to feel connected to what is going on with publicis.
Three more full weeks in the field, so let's pray for something to come down for us. We at Ocean did a very good job in increasing Crestor nrxs. It's a shame that AZ can't see what they had in the majority of us. Has anyone gotten a full time position with AZ selling Crestor?
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:05 PM
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Looks like things are drying up for Publicis. Inventiv,Venti seem to be the leaders in contracts at this point. I guess that the new contracts go to the lowest bidder. Results or not it all like many things comes down to price. Nobody wants to pay for experince or results anymore they all want things the Walmart way. That is, buy it now for less and think your getting a deal. The reality like many things is that you get what you pay for. If management and those in executive leadership roles can't make a profit, no new jobs. So continues the slow swirl around the toliet bowl for this entire economy. it's not just pharma, it's everywhere.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:40 PM
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someone has to know something on the dealings of this upcoming contract or contracts?
Any news on when they wll sign on the dotted line to move forward with publicis?
im concerned that once sept 18 ends we will be cut out of the loop.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:07 AM
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don't count on being placed on any contract because you did well on this contract. I finished in the top 15 in my region and regional manager didn't even want to look at the numbers or even talk to my current manager or the managers of the AZ people I worked with on the contract. Her main concern was whether I would stay on the contract because I was going to take a pay cut. Didn't get placed. People who think contract pharma is going to dominate this business are wrong. Eventually Pharma manufacturers and developers are going to realize that contract pharma only adds another unneccesary level of mngt and overhead cost. You will get a better rep paying x dollars directly than x minus y dollars. y representing contract admin and profit. I think AZ already figured this out because they are hiring direct overlay reps in cns that sounds alot like what we did.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:50 PM
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Gemini rep here. We had three openings in our district. Two are being filled by Ocean reps, the third is not because the manager didn't give a good recommendation. Those who came with high recommendations didn't really have to interview... just met with Gemini manager for coffee. They are being told to hire Ocean reps wherever they can. Just FYI....
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