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02-11-2006, 12:07 PM
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MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
TOLD YOU SO!!!!! (LOLOLOL)
Signed,
Sanofi and Sepracor
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02-11-2006, 12:09 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
This is what takeda gets for telling pss to hire "young, inexperienced cheerleaders"; THEY DON'T KNOW THE BUSINESS --- THEY CAN'T SELL!! More market share for us!
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02-11-2006, 12:24 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Inexperienced is NOT the word. You have NO idea what these people are saying and doing out their with their physicians. It is hillarious!!! Of course since I am your competition I am just typing this becasue I am jealous, nervous, and wish I was selling Rozerem right??
If only you could hear and see some of the stuff these newbies are doing and saying. This may explain their 1.7% mkt share after 6 months on the marekt and falling in my territory. See yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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02-11-2006, 01:08 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
You know, I am curious. Nothing would surprise me, so let 'er rip. What are they saying?
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02-13-2006, 03:28 PM
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02-14-2006, 09:27 AM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
That's what I thought. Another troll.
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02-14-2006, 05:08 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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TOLD YOU SO!!!!! (LOLOLOL)
Signed,
Sanofi and Sepracor
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You guys have less than 5% market share in my territory, and that's after almost 1 year! You have nothing to be so cocky about?
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02-14-2006, 08:20 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
I don't work for either company, but had to pipe in on this thread-
The reason Rozerem is doing sooo poorly is because IT DOESN'T WORK! Took it for 10 days straight and wound up with nothing but insomnia and a Roz hangover. I happily went back to my metallic-tasting Lunesta 3mg.
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02-14-2006, 08:50 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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I don't work for either company, but had to pipe in on this thread-
The reason Rozerem is doing sooo poorly is because IT DOESN'T WORK! Took it for 10 days straight and wound up
with nothing but insomnia and a Roz hangover. I happily went back to my metallic-tasting Lunesta 3mg.
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Im sure, and lunesta kills
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02-15-2006, 01:53 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Comparing Rozerem's launch to Lunesta's launch is asanine. Rozerem is an entirely new class of drug. Ambien, Lunesta and Ambien CR are nothing but ME TOO drugs. You copied the same science that has been used for 30+ years, and through millions of dollars in DTC advertising, you managed to convince every hick in the country they are having trouble sleeping. The best part is once they tried it they couldn't quit because your products are addicting and cause the patient to sleep worse after discontinuing the product. Just watch what happens in the next year, you will need some of those tissues you are so fond of passing out.
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02-16-2006, 11:53 AM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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Comparing Rozerem's launch to Lunesta's launch is asanine. Rozerem is an entirely new class of drug. Ambien, Lunesta and Ambien CR are nothing but ME TOO drugs. You copied the same science that has been used for 30+ years, and through millions of dollars in DTC advertising, you managed to convince every hick in the country they are having trouble sleeping. The best part is once they tried it they couldn't quit because your products are addicting and cause the patient to sleep worse after discontinuing the product. Just watch what happens in the next year, you will need some of those tissues you are so fond of passing out.
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1 - you are an idiot which is very evident by your post above
2 - show me data that shows Lunesta is addicting?? I can show you data that Lunesta IS NOT addicting for up to 12 months at our highest strength of 3mg? Where is your data? If you say such accusation why do you not have the data to back this up? How will you provide your customers this type of clinical data??? DIDNT THINK SO!!! I on the other hand provide my customers EVERY DAY of data showing Lunesta IS NOT addictive. Where is your data? Do you simply go into your customers offices and say well the trainers said Lunesta is addictive so you shouldn't write it. Guess what KID whatever you and your clones are doing ITS NOT WORKING by your 2% mkt share after 6 months on the mkt. Furthermore show clinical evidence that patients become worse AFTER stopping Lun? I can how CLINICAL data after taking 3 mg of Lun for 12 months patients slept just as well and in many cases better when they stopped taking it after 12 months? We studies these pats well after they stopped taking Lun after 12 months straight with NO addictive issues OR sleep problems. Where is your data? DIDNT THINK SO AGAIN!!! How does it feel to be bitched slapped on cafepharam?
3 - By your own admission of being a NEW CLASS of drugs Roz should have taken off, it should have been flying off of the shelves right since it is NEW and BETTER class of drugs? Well, how has that worked out for you? How did the UNBIASED EXPERTS who write the Medical Letter think it worked? Do you have the same qualifications as those physicians who write the Medical Letter? Oh that right, I forgot you went through 2 weeks of training of insomnia after you were unemployed for 18 months before the training. How long do you think Roz will need before it "takes off"? How long did Clarinex need before it took of. It too was a new class of med at the time? I believe it made a billion dollars after the first 18 months on the market. Admit it Roz is and will be a complete failure
4 - You sit there and say we have gained all of this success and mkt share due to DTC - WHO CARES HOW WE GAIN MKT SHARE as long as we are not being unethical!!!! You are an idiot once more due to you are too narrow minded to see THIS IS A BUSINESS AHOLE. We are in the market to get a much mkt share as we can anyway possible without being unethical or unprofessional. I suppose you would be upset or ashamed if Roz was heavily into DTC? Fact is Roz does not generate enough revenue to warrant DTC from your marketing dept.
5 - Please provide me some insight as to what will be happening next yr with Roz that I will need my lovely blue box of tissues? Next year Roz will have to compete with Indiplon, generic Amb, Sonata XL, a ton of new data on Lun in several different disease states, and Merck with their new sleep product in 2007. Please of wise one how will Roz fare against those challenges all with a product that has almost NO efficacy and a next day hangover that equals a bottle of Jack Daniels
Your comments above show exactly why you are at a contract sales company Jr. Maybe in a few yrs you will enter the big leagues. See ya sucker...! LOL
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02-16-2006, 03:39 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Purdue, Rep here. We use to say OxyC was not addicting as well. I'd be careful about talking anything with addiction. I'd put money Lunesta and Ambien make you physically dependent!
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02-16-2006, 04:20 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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Purdue, Rep here. We use to say OxyC was not addicting as well. I'd be careful about talking anything with addiction. I'd put money Lunesta and Ambien make you physically dependent!
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1 - you work for Purdue = no credibility AND
2 - chances are you are mostly likely a Rozerem rep who used to work at Purdue. Either way you sound like a TOTAL ahole to say something like that. What are your reasons, where is your clinical data, what are your credentials to make such assumptions? Let me guess you sold oxy before even if you truely are a Purdue rep which I highly doubt. Enough said. Now beat it jr.
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02-16-2006, 04:23 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Dude, Lunesta is a C IV product. That is all we have to say.
C IV = addiction
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02-16-2006, 04:32 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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Purdue, Rep here. We use to say OxyC was not addicting as well. I'd be careful about talking anything with addiction. I'd put money Lunesta and Ambien make you physically dependent!
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Why the hell would you admit to being a Perdue rep? In terms of respect, you rank below us CSO's!!! http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/laugh.gif
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02-16-2006, 04:41 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
I gave my dog a Lunesta and he starting licking his ass... I guess he was trying to get the taste out of his mouth.
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02-16-2006, 07:05 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
WELL TELL US WHICH TASTED WORSE THE TASTE OF LICKING A DOGS ASS OR THE LUNESTA?? COME ON, DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DIDNT GIVE IT A TRY ONCE YOU SAW HIM LICKING HIS OWN ASS!!! LET'S BE HONEST HERE.....COME CLEAN WILL YA??? I NEEEEED TO KNOW.
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02-16-2006, 07:08 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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Dude, Lunesta is a C IV product. That is all we have to say.
C IV = addiction [/quo
First of all who is we?? Are you a siamese twin, amybe part of the Borg, or just you use the pronoun of we to describe your multiple personalities?
Second, please copy and paste some sites with clinical data showing LUNESTA is addictive? Whats that you cant find one. Thats what I thought.
By the way those questions above were for all 10 of your split personalities. FREAK!
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02-16-2006, 07:28 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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Dude, Lunesta is a C IV product. That is all we have to say.
C IV = addiction [/quo
First of all who is we?? Are you a siamese twin, amybe part of the Borg, or just you use the pronoun of we to describe your multiple personalities?
Second, please copy and paste some sites with clinical data showing LUNESTA is addictive? Whats that you cant find one. Thats what I thought.
By the way those questions above were for all 10 of your split personalities. FREAK!
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You seem to be the smart one here. You tell US what the definition of a Schedule IV medication is. Once YOU answer that question then you have answered the question whether Lunesta is addictive or not.
And yes, my dogs ass tastes better than that shit taste patients get after taking Lunesta. I can't be the only one who has ever licked their dogs ass. I mean...come on.
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02-16-2006, 07:42 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Here smart guy, let me save you some time.
Schedule I
• The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
• The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
• Examples of Schedule I substances include heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana, and methaqualone.
Schedule II
• The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions.
• Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.
• Examples of Schedule II substances include morphine, phencyclidine (PCP), cocaine, methadone, and methamphetamine.
Schedule III
• The drug or other substance has less potential for abuse than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.
• Anabolic steroids, codeine and hydrocodone with aspirin or Tylenol®, and some barbiturates are examples of Schedule III substances.
Schedule IV
• The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule III.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule III.
• Examples of drugs included in schedule IV are Darvon®, Talwin®, Equanil®, Valium®, and Xanax®.
Schedule V
• The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule IV.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule IV.
• Cough medicines with codeine are examples of Schedule V drugs.
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02-16-2006, 08:15 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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I gave my dog a Lunesta and he starting licking his ass... I guess he was trying to get the taste out of his mouth.
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A doctor gave rozerem to a patient and then he gave him a gaba agonist...I guess he wanted to sleep. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/grin.gif
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02-16-2006, 08:25 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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Here smart guy, let me save you some time.
Schedule I
• The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
• The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
• Examples of Schedule I substances include heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana, and methaqualone.
Schedule II
• The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions.
• Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.
• Examples of Schedule II substances include morphine, phencyclidine (PCP), cocaine, methadone, and methamphetamine.
Schedule III
• The drug or other substance has less potential for abuse than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.
• Anabolic steroids, codeine and hydrocodone with aspirin or Tylenol®, and some barbiturates are examples of Schedule III substances.
Schedule IV
• The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule III.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule III.
• Examples of drugs included in schedule IV are Darvon®, Talwin®, Equanil®, Valium®, and Xanax®.
Schedule V
• The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule IV.
• The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
• Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in Schedule IV.
• Cough medicines with codeine are examples of Schedule V drugs.
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Funny I see several other medications named here BUT I DONT SEE LUNESTA????? - NEXT! Dumbass contract reps....
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02-16-2006, 08:29 PM
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Funny I see several other medications named here BUT I DONT SEE LUNESTA????? - NEXT! Dumbass contract reps....
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Anything that binds to the GABA receptors has a potential for addiction, tolerance and abuse. Ask any addiction specialist and they will tell you the same thing. If you are telling your docs there is no chance of addiction then you are unethical to say the least.
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02-16-2006, 08:43 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Funny I see several other medications named here BUT I DONT SEE LUNESTA????? - NEXT! Dumbass contract reps....
Once again, those were examples of just SOME Schedule IV meds. I was just having some fun but you are really showing your ignorance.
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02-16-2006, 09:03 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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1 - you are an idiot which is very evident by your post above
2 - show me data that shows Lunesta is addicting?? I can show you data that Lunesta IS NOT addicting for up to 12 months at our highest strength of 3mg? Where is your data? If you say such accusation why do you not have the data to back this up? How will you provide your customers this type of clinical data??? DIDNT THINK SO!!! I on the other hand provide my customers EVERY DAY of data showing Lunesta IS NOT addictive. Where is your data? Do you simply go into your customers offices and say well the trainers said Lunesta is addictive so you shouldn't write it. Guess what KID whatever you and your clones are doing ITS NOT WORKING by your 2% mkt share after 6 months on the mkt. Furthermore show clinical evidence that patients become worse AFTER stopping Lun? I can how CLINICAL data after taking 3 mg of Lun for 12 months patients slept just as well and in many cases better when they stopped taking it after 12 months? We studies these pats well after they stopped taking Lun after 12 months straight with NO addictive issues OR sleep problems. Where is your data? DIDNT THINK SO AGAIN!!! How does it feel to be bitched slapped on cafepharam?
3 - By your own admission of being a NEW CLASS of drugs Roz should have taken off, it should have been flying off of the shelves right since it is NEW and BETTER class of drugs? Well, how has that worked out for you? How did the UNBIASED EXPERTS who write the Medical Letter think it worked? Do you have the same qualifications as those physicians who write the Medical Letter? Oh that right, I forgot you went through 2 weeks of training of insomnia after you were unemployed for 18 months before the training. How long do you think Roz will need before it "takes off"? How long did Clarinex need before it took of. It too was a new class of med at the time? I believe it made a billion dollars after the first 18 months on the market. Admit it Roz is and will be a complete failure
4 - You sit there and say we have gained all of this success and mkt share due to DTC - WHO CARES HOW WE GAIN MKT SHARE as long as we are not being unethical!!!! You are an idiot once more due to you are too narrow minded to see THIS IS A BUSINESS AHOLE. We are in the market to get a much mkt share as we can anyway possible without being unethical or unprofessional. I suppose you would be upset or ashamed if Roz was heavily into DTC? Fact is Roz does not generate enough revenue to warrant DTC from your marketing dept.
5 - Please provide me some insight as to what will be happening next yr with Roz that I will need my lovely blue box of tissues? Next year Roz will have to compete with Indiplon, generic Amb, Sonata XL, a ton of new data on Lun in several different disease states, and Merck with their new sleep product in 2007. Please of wise one how will Roz fare against those challenges all with a product that has almost NO efficacy and a next day hangover that equals a bottle of Jack Daniels
Your comments above show exactly why you are at a contract sales company Jr. Maybe in a few yrs you will enter the big leagues. See ya sucker...! LOL
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So many things I could say to reply to your inane babble, but why waste my time. Just remember that by your own admission, you have reached the peak of your career (as a professional caterer at Sepracor, F'ing LOL). I may be a contract rep at the moment, but will soon be leaving this industry and my life will only get better, too bad you can't say the same. HAVE A NICE LIFE!
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02-16-2006, 10:18 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Here you go,
Important Safety Information: Lunesta should only be taken immediately before bedtime. Be sure you have at least eight hours to devote to sleep before becoming active. You should not engage in any activity after taking Lunesta that requires complete alertness, such as driving a car or operating machinery. You should use extreme care when engaging in these activities the morning after taking Lunesta. Do not use alcohol while taking any sleep medicine. Most sleep medicines carry some risk of dependency. Do not use sleep medicines for extended periods without first talking to your doctor. Side effects may include unpleasant taste, headache, drowsiness and dizziness. For more information, please see
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02-16-2006, 10:59 PM
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Thank you! God, go back to training. Or better yet, quit your job because you have no clue what you're selling. The FDA mandated you as a Schedule IV substance... this means... DING DING DING... you have a risk for abuse or dependency.
You must be a real loser and who the hell hired you? Did they know you spend your days and evenings typing useless and false bullshit on a forum.. instead of posting all this useless psycho babble on a website... get a freakin' life. And while you're doing that... read over your PI a few times and then review how the FDA decides on how/why drugs can should be scheduled. Keep some water with you though... you may dribble out a new set of chrome rims from that metal mouth!!!
By the way, this part of the website is useless... its for unsuccessful reps like this Lunesta person (not even gonna grace you with a dignified title) who are stupid and want to bitch all the time. Who needs it... I would rather sell!!!
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02-17-2006, 01:47 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
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Thank you! God, go back to training. Or better yet, quit your job because you have no clue what you're selling. The FDA mandated you as a Schedule IV substance... this means... DING DING DING... you have a risk for abuse or dependency.
You must be a real loser and who the hell hired you? Did they know you spend your days and evenings typing useless and false bullshit on a forum.. instead of posting all this useless psycho babble on a website... get a freakin' life. And while you're doing that... read over your PI a few times and then review how the FDA decides on how/why drugs can should be scheduled. Keep some water with you though... you may dribble out a new set of chrome rims from that metal mouth!!!
By the way, this part of the website is useless... its for unsuccessful reps like this Lunesta person (not even gonna grace you with a dignified title) who are stupid and want to bitch all the time. Who needs it... I would rather sell!!!
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LOL I have ONE response........................ YOU ARE A CONTRACT SALES REP!!!!!! You have NO credibility. There is not a lower form of employment at any company in the pharmaceutical.biotech/med device industry than a contract rep. FURTHERMORE, you work for the most pathetic CSO in out of all of the pathetic CSO's!!! LOL. PDI, Ventiv BOTH blow this shitty company away.
When you are able to get a real job with a real comapny selling a medicine that can post more than a 2% mkt share after 6 months then you will get some respect and credibility. How iin the F do you look peole in the eye and tell them what you do for a living? MY guess is that you are so ashamed you say you work for Takeda Pharmaceuticals. Am I right??? I thought so!!! LOL
PS - I am still waiting for the clinical data showing Lun is addicitve. I can show you a 12 month study at our highest mg showing there are NO zero zilcho addictive properties even after the discontinuation of Lun after a year. How is that bonus check doing this year selling roz...LOL
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02-18-2006, 06:51 PM
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Thank you! God, go back to training. Or better yet, quit your job because you have no clue what you're selling. The FDA mandated you as a Schedule IV substance... this means... DING DING DING... you have a risk for abuse or dependency.
You must be a real loser and who the hell hired you? Did they know you spend your days and evenings typing useless and false bullshit on a forum.. instead of posting all this useless psycho babble on a website... get a freakin' life. And while you're doing that... read over your PI a few times and then review how the FDA decides on how/why drugs can should be scheduled. Keep some water with you though... you may dribble out a new set of chrome rims from that metal mouth!!!
By the way, this part of the website is useless... its for unsuccessful reps like this Lunesta person (not even gonna grace you with a dignified title) who are stupid and want to bitch all the time. Who needs it... I would rather sell!!!
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LOL I have ONE response........................ YOU ARE A CONTRACT SALES REP!!!!!! You have NO credibility. There is not a lower form of employment at any company in the pharmaceutical.biotech/med device industry than a contract rep. FURTHERMORE, you work for the most pathetic CSO in out of all of the pathetic CSO's!!! LOL. PDI, Ventiv BOTH blow this shitty company away.
When you are able to get a real job with a real comapny selling a medicine that can post more than a 2% mkt share after 6 months then you will get some respect and credibility. How iin the F do you look peole in the eye and tell them what you do for a living? MY guess is that you are so ashamed you say you work for Takeda Pharmaceuticals. Am I right??? I thought so!!! LOL
PS - I am still waiting for the clinical data showing Lun is addicitve. I can show you a 12 month study at our highest mg showing there are NO zero zilcho addictive properties even after the discontinuation of Lun after a year. How is that bonus check doing this year selling roz...LOL
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The LOL boy has been with us since launch. His bonus check is less than yours, his company’s DTC is as credible as he is, and his job security is the same as yours. He can rant here all he wants, but it changes nothing, including the fact that he will never amount to anything in his career. You can tell a lot about a person by how and what he writes. This guy is doomed to permanent loser status. Even if Lunesta was the best drug in the world, which it is not, LOL boy is not going anywhere. Check the link below, ignore this guy, and educate your customers. Also, take the high road ALWAYS. You know this guy won’t. So do his customers.
http://www.boston.com/business/globe...eping_pill_ads
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02-19-2006, 10:02 AM
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LOL Hmm would I rather have this write up of well over a year ago or have the write up of the MEDICAL LETTER Rozerem received? Yes, lets us ALL educate our customers on the clincial effectiveness our our products. LOL I am employed by a pharma company you my "looking for my next paycheck friend" are employed by a CSO which means you could not get a job with a real company. So yes let us all educate our customers on ALL of the positive and negative aspects of our products. Oh wait, thats what we have been doing for 6 months and YOU HAVE A 2% MKT SHARE!!!! LOL DUMBASS.
Want to talk about bonus checks? Ask your friendly neighborhood Sepracor rep what his T3 2005 bonus was. There are reps making close to 100K for T3 alone. I am not one of them however we generated enough moeny last year (7th best launch in pharma history j-ass) to pay that type of bonus. By the way how is your launch going???? LOLOLOLOL!
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02-21-2006, 10:43 PM
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Comparing Rozerem's launch to Lunesta's launch is asanine. Rozerem is an entirely new class of drug. Ambien, Lunesta and Ambien CR are nothing but ME TOO drugs. You copied the same science that has been used for 30+ years, and through millions of dollars in DTC advertising, you managed to convince every hick in the country they are having trouble sleeping. The best part is once they tried it they couldn't quit because your products are addicting and cause the patient to sleep worse after discontinuing the product. Just watch what happens in the next year, you will need some of those tissues you are so fond of passing out.
[/ QUOTE ] Now I find it funny that any drug rep would be telling another drug rep about DTC advertising...don't you know in this industry that is part of R & D anymore. Different products work differently on different people...duhhhhhh. I've taken them all and others with the "side effect" of sleep. SOme people get hooked, some don't don't. Simple.
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02-24-2006, 08:48 PM
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Want to talk about bonus checks? Ask your friendly neighborhood Sepracor rep what his T3 2005 bonus was. There are reps making close to 100K for T3 alone. I am not one of them however we generated enough moeny last year (7th best launch in pharma history j-ass) to pay that type of bonus. By the way how is your launch going???? LOLOLOLOL!
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You are not one of them and you never will be because you are posting on another company's Cafephamra thread LOLing yourself all over the place while your peers with class are doing their jobs. How insecure can you get! http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/laugh.gif
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02-24-2006, 09:59 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL Thats how insecure.
LOL!!
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02-24-2006, 11:51 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
dtc must be nice
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02-26-2006, 08:54 AM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
seling a product with less than 2% mkt share after 7 month must not be nice
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02-27-2006, 07:35 PM
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1 - you are an idiot which is very evident by your post above
2 - show me data that shows Lunesta is addicting?? I can show you data that Lunesta IS NOT addicting for up to 12 months at our highest strength of 3mg? Where is your data? If you say such accusation why do you not have the data to back this up? How will you provide your customers this type of clinical data??? DIDNT THINK SO!!! I on the other hand provide my customers EVERY DAY of data showing Lunesta IS NOT addictive. Where is your data? Do you simply go into your customers offices and say well the trainers said Lunesta is addictive so you shouldn't write it. Guess what KID whatever you and your clones are doing ITS NOT WORKING by your 2% mkt share after 6 months on the mkt. Furthermore show clinical evidence that patients become worse AFTER stopping Lun? I can how CLINICAL data after taking 3 mg of Lun for 12 months patients slept just as well and in many cases better when they stopped taking it after 12 months? We studies these pats well after they stopped taking Lun after 12 months straight with NO addictive issues OR sleep problems. Where is your data? DIDNT THINK SO AGAIN!!! How does it feel to be bitched slapped on cafepharam?
3 - By your own admission of being a NEW CLASS of drugs Roz should have taken off, it should have been flying off of the shelves right since it is NEW and BETTER class of drugs? Well, how has that worked out for you? How did the UNBIASED EXPERTS who write the Medical Letter think it worked? Do you have the same qualifications as those physicians who write the Medical Letter? Oh that right, I forgot you went through 2 weeks of training of insomnia after you were unemployed for 18 months before the training. How long do you think Roz will need before it "takes off"? How long did Clarinex need before it took of. It too was a new class of med at the time? I believe it made a billion dollars after the first 18 months on the market. Admit it Roz is and will be a complete failure
4 - You sit there and say we have gained all of this success and mkt share due to DTC - WHO CARES HOW WE GAIN MKT SHARE as long as we are not being unethical!!!! You are an idiot once more due to you are too narrow minded to see THIS IS A BUSINESS AHOLE. We are in the market to get a much mkt share as we can anyway possible without being unethical or unprofessional. I suppose you would be upset or ashamed if Roz was heavily into DTC? Fact is Roz does not generate enough revenue to warrant DTC from your marketing dept.
5 - Please provide me some insight as to what will be happening next yr with Roz that I will need my lovely blue box of tissues? Next year Roz will have to compete with Indiplon, generic Amb, Sonata XL, a ton of new data on Lun in several different disease states, and Merck with their new sleep product in 2007. Please of wise one how will Roz fare against those challenges all with a product that has almost NO efficacy and a next day hangover that equals a bottle of Jack Daniels
Your comments above show exactly why you are at a contract sales company Jr. Maybe in a few yrs you will enter the big leagues. See ya sucker...! LOL
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So many things I could say to reply to your inane babble, but why waste my time. Just remember that by your own admission, you have reached the peak of your career (as a professional caterer at Sepracor, F'ing LOL). I may be a contract rep at the moment, but will soon be leaving this industry and my life will only get better, too bad you can't say the same. HAVE A NICE LIFE!
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Anything that binds to the GABA receptors has a potential for addiction, tolerance and abuse. Ask any addiction specialist and they will tell you the same thing. If you are telling your docs there is no chance of addiction then you are unethical to say the least. Not to mention tolerance! Most patients will increase their dose without the doctor ever knowing! Tolerance, abuse = Lunesta...why do you think is scheduled?
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02-27-2006, 08:54 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
You can't abuse placebo. I guess thats the real reason rozecrap isnt scheduled.
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02-27-2006, 09:07 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
you gotta love the pharma reps to love to play wannabe experts. PLEASE give it a rest and get back to your visual aid kid. complete joke!!
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02-27-2006, 09:29 PM
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you gotta love the pharma reps to love to play wannabe experts. PLEASE give it a rest and get back to your visual aid kid. complete joke!!
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Neither of the above posts were able to answer the question.
Why is Lupesta scheduled? It's easy to come back with stabs and insults but you are sidestepping the real issue. Gaba agonists are scheduled because they have the potential to be addictive and you cannot get around that no matter how much you want to insult Rozerem.
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02-28-2006, 04:04 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
listen fuckface, I COULD CARELESS IS LUNESTA HAS 3 BLACK BOXES ON IT!!! Dont you get it yet its all about sales, money and mkt share. You may sit here and feel like you've won your little point of proving Lunesta does have a scheduled status to it but that fact is SO WAHT?? I have a scheduled drug that outsold your drug by 600 milllion with only a few months more on the market. Furthermore, I GUARENTEE I banked a TON more $$$$ than you on bonus last year and will continue to bank a ton more $$$$ than you going forward.
Fact is, you will be EXTREMELY lucky to have a god damn job in 6 months under ANY coontract let alone Takeda. Now, who is the real winner in this whole dialogue??? That's right me, my bank account, my family, and my furutre no matter how you cut it. Try printing this post out and buying a GPS system with it and see how far you get. DAMN WANNABE!!
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02-28-2006, 04:53 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
You're Cool!!
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02-28-2006, 05:46 PM
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Re: MESSAGE TO ROZEREM REPS REGARDING YOUR SUCCESS THUS FAR
Super cool!
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