AZ MC5

Anyone have any knowledge about the coming "significant" reductions and how that is going to affect the AZ MC5 selling team?

Send an email to S. Budd or L. Ellberger. I'm sure they will know.

We're producing, so we're safe. MC-8 will take the hit. They don't deserve being cut.

You are a dreamer 5....AZ can do it all without you. You've just had an "easier" job. Better dust off your resume and fast....no AZ jobs are safe.

I'm not implying that we can't get cut. I'm simply stating that the odds are in our favor of keeping the contract. Let there be no doubt that we can be gone on a whim, but MC-5 is on very solid ground for now. From a business perspective that we're exceeding AZ's expectations, we should be safe. For today.

I agree, thinking MC5 is safe is dreaming. AZ can and probably will use some fo their sales force as Respiratory Reps again. Even with MC8 gone, AZ has too many reps and could take some and train them in July and August for respiratory. I think that is what will happen, but then no one knows yet. I think anyone that needs to work to keep food on the table, MC5 or 8 needs to job hunt and get away from PDI now.
With the main AZ contract down the tubes, PDI has very little left and unless they get new contracts, they will be closing their doors within a year. They can't survive on the few contracts they have now.

Especially if management wants to continue living in the high style they are use to. Time to get out of here and think about ourselves for a change and not who is the next head honcho to walk away with a few million $$$$$ at our expense.

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I'm not implying that we can't get cut. I'm simply stating that the odds are in our favor of keeping the contract. Let there be no doubt that we can be gone on a whim, but MC-5 is on very solid ground for now. From a business perspective that we're exceeding AZ's expectations, we should be safe. For today.

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YOU are not safe. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/cool.gif

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I'm not implying that we can't get cut. I'm simply stating that the odds are in our favor of keeping the contract. Let there be no doubt that we can be gone on a whim, but MC-5 is on very solid ground for now. From a business perspective that we're exceeding AZ's expectations, we should be safe. For today.

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YOU are not safe. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/cool.gif

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I agree, no way is MC5 safe and anyone who thinks so is smoking crack. MC 1-4 now carries RAQ and you guys have what? Respules? Gimme a break, you are one conference call and a day in training away from nothing. MC 1-4 can be up and running with your "bag" in one day. And don't forget it!

Really...well perhaps. But here is some 'food for thought", never has AZ seen such a rise in PR as they have with MC5..not even at launch of PR with the original teams. Why would they move MC9 and MC10 out of Respiratory? They wanted to drive market share....hello!!! Now granted, should AZ want to go back to where they were before with Respiratory...bring back the old teams! Better yet bring on mc1-mc4 that no nothing about Respiratory. Then lets see how we do selling the Respiratory brand to the physicians that are used to the other team. Lets get them really annoyed with AZ and drive the market share. You see my friend, this would make great sense for AZ from a business standpoint...would it not? Now my suggestion to you, is to go back to your business textbooks....did you say that you have an MBA? http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/blush.gif http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/grin.gif

Keep on smoking or drinking what you are! These decisions generally have nothing to do with PDI performance. It's a matter of where AZ is at right now and it's not a good forecast . . . . with or without PDI.

The question is has AZ ever made any decisions that make any sense?

Inside scoop: MC5 is completely paperless; they use the new tablet pc to detail. MC1-4 just started using the tablet, and got RAQ added to their portfolio. Once the rest of the AZ sales teams get the tablet pc this summer the remaining MC5 products will be distributed to other sales teams. Then MC5 will be finished. June timeframe as of now. Could be pushed out a bit depending on some new campaigns for other drugs, nex, sql. also see this on az board.

PERFORMANCE.....it has to do with this. Do you really think for one moment that a company that is contracting out work will continue paying out money for a drug that is not really moving marketshare. When you have to remove two major drugs from the final stages..before aproval, do you think they will continue paying out for teams that are not producing? Here is something to also consider, perhaps they will be looking at their own teams as well. Is it effective to have 2-3 PSS's selling the same drug in the same offices?Would it not make sense just to have 1..maximum 2. Perhaps have an extra rep that cover 2-3 territories as an extra voice...more cost effective. This is something to think about.

AZ is thinking about having too many reps. That is why the contract is being cut.

As for the person that thinks just because MC5 is moving product, they won't be cut, is dreaming. MC5 is doing a good job, yes, but when AZ had a dedicated respiratory team, they also moved product. Respiratory has always been a money-maker for AZ. Think about what you wrote. " <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font>
The MC5 team is only a year old. Most of them also had no relationships or knew nothing about the product. AZ has never cared about relationships. Look at how often they have changed customer lists on the other cylinders.

It would be nice to think we as MC5 are safe, but I wouldn't put money on it.

To the above poster I just read your reply and had to respond. You are WRONG !!Respiratory is nearly 2 years old and there are a few people that DO have plenty of Respiratory background. Their own people carrying Respiratory never made the impact this team has...get it straight. This would be foolosh to bring back those people, after all they lost money. Perhaps you need to have your own pyschic network talkshow since you know so much. Bottom line is we will not know till its all said and done. I hate when people make posts and they cannot even get the information straight.

You didn't HAVE to respond. You chose to respond. Now go out the door and get me my lunch. Then STFU.

I think we are all gone, MC5, MC8, MCZ, the FWA program. I think that is the reason PDI put out the press release. I think AZ is hurting from withdrawing Exanta worldwide, lost the TXL legal battle and Crestor is doing poorly. They have too many teams internally, will shift them around and cover all the products without us.

It happened to Glaxo just after the merger with SKB... it CAN happen to AZ.

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To the above poster I just read your reply and had to respond. You are WRONG !!Respiratory is nearly 2 years old and there are a few people that DO have plenty of Respiratory background. Their own people carrying Respiratory never made the impact this team has...get it straight. This would be foolosh to bring back those people, after all they lost money. Perhaps you need to have your own pyschic network talkshow since you know so much. Bottom line is we will not know till its all said and done. I hate when people make posts and they cannot even get the information straight.

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Lighten up Frances!

Look, I am MC5 also and we are toast. It never mattered to AZ how much experience other MC teams have had in the past, so why would it suddenly start to matter to them now? You use the term "foolish". Get one thing straight. Foolish never meant a thing to AZ.

MC 5 may be in a better position, but no one knows. Let's hope that they let us know on Friday and don't drag this out. Regardless alot of good people are going to lose their jobs.

Dear MC5ers: if the posts in the handheld are accurate which you deem them to be, can you figure out what days not to call on a physician and when he is on vacation.? the rep in my area can't. i am embarrassed that they wear a PDI name tag.

Hey there..nice post Sherlock. Here is something for you to bite on. First of all, MC5 does not have handhelds..and we generally dont call on the physicians that the other MC teams call on...can we say ' PEDIATRICIANS". Now in a case that your MC5er as you put it is calling on MDS that are on vacation ..that is sad and gives us a bad name. Now here is one for y ou. I had an AZ counterpart calling on a doctor that has been dead and gone for years...wow since when are we making cemetary calls? Oh and yes lets not forget a former MC? (nevermind) that is gone...that just never seemed to make calls..or if they did it was from their Taurus, better watch the stones that you fling. And why dont you get your facts straight before you post....really!

No MC5 doesn't have handhelds, but our notes are in the data bank and it shows up on the handhelds of the other reps if they are also calling on the same doctor.

I am MC 5 and I have about 10 doctors (allergist, a couple of FP, pulminologist that MC 1-4 are also calling on now)...I see their notes all the time now.

Get your facts straight, before you tell other people to.

Uh..ok..lighten up Gertrude! I agree with the orginal poster. And let me say to you (above post) Good for you that you have 10 docs that other MC groups call on. You need to http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/blush.gifjust lighten up on that orginal post. I dont think you understood that person's point. Sounds like you got much too irritated to be part of our group. If you have doctors that are FP...bla bla bla..great and nice. If you would have understood the original post that attacked the MC5 group..perhaps you would not have been so nasty back..unless of course you are not MC5!

To the above poster. I didn't think the person you attacked about their post sounded irritated or any such thing. He/she was just pointing out that the other poster had called someone else down for not being accurate and then posted inacurate information also. I think they are MC5 and stating what anyone from MC5 should know.

To the poster that feels that MC5 is safe because we are moving product the best it has ever been moved. Hopefully we are, but I wouldn't bank my money and future paychecks on it. AZ has never cared about who was moving what and what relationships mean. The have constantly (I have been on contracts with AZ for years), change thinkgs and mix them up.

I only hope that someone gets straight answers soon and we are all informed as to who is going and when. The not-knowing is not good for business no matter what AZ contract you are on. Yes we all need to keep focused and go sell, sell, sell, but the not knowing can't help but get in the way.

Maybe we'll hear on Friday, but don't count on it! THIS "cat won't be let out of the bag" 'til near the end of the contract/s. Upper management doesn't want us to know anything at this point. They want us to keep working right up to the end. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/grin.gif