Neuropathy Indication for Metanx

I am the same doctor as before who posted about Metanx having FDA approval to treat Diabetic Neuropathy. The same rep stopped in again this week and was bragging of how your Vitamin now has FDA approval to treat Diabetic Neuropathy. Your Literature states in a roundabout way of treating but does Metanx have FDA approval. If not, your company is in direct violation. I accepted the samples but still use generic FOLTX and the pharmacist I spoke to said it was absurd what Pamlab reps were saying out there. Any Thoughts?

Yeah....here's a thought.....GO FUCK YOURSELF!

sounds like Zach and his NO SPIN message.

Hey doc, next time ask for the studies that got Metenx approved for that indication. Watch the rep close up and run off. The rep might pull out a couple abstracts, but no real data! report back!

Hey "doc", go fuck yourself and get a life instead of stirring up shit on a pharma web board anonymously. You fucking loser. If you are a doctor, I am a fucking Interventional Cardiologist.

yea...a doctor is spending his Saturday morning cruising the boards of CafePharma...nice try idiot

stir it up? well, what is the real truth? Does Metanx have FDA approval! The Spin stops here!

who is the real idiot! Metanx rep Claiming to have an indication or a concerned Doctor trying to follow FDA aproved medication.

Blah Blah....you got fired from PamLab and now you have nothing better to do that entertain the reps who still work here and enjoy the stupid, senseless posts you put on Cafepharma......I only come on here to make fun of idiots like you and then call up my buddies and we try to find out which one of the fired reps this is. ROFLMAO

Typical Pamlab response! "Just shove it under the Rug" Don't know anything about being fired, or layed -off yet? But I have had doctors ask the same questions and I do not know if I am lying to them or not. as for the First post, who knows if it is ligit? But Not having an indication and saying we do is lying right?! and as for the other above poster, "THE SPIN" starts with Zach.

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Blah Blah....you got fired from PamLab and now you have nothing better to do that entertain the reps who still work here and enjoy the stupid, senseless posts you put on Cafepharma......I only come on here to make fun of idiots like you and then call up my buddies and we try to find out which one of the fired reps this is. ROFLMAO

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and your proud you still work here? that is the real LMAO

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Typical Pamlab response! "Just shove it under the Rug" Don't know anything about being fired, or layed -off yet? But I have had doctors ask the same questions and I do not know if I am lying to them or not. as for the First post, who knows if it is ligit? But Not having an indication and saying we do is lying right?! and as for the other above poster, "THE SPIN" starts with Zach.

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I have doctors look at me cross eyed when I tell them metanx has an indication to treat Neuropathy. I know I am lying but don't give a shit anymore. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/smirk.gif
Tell the 3 blind mice what they want to hear for they can not see.

Quiz..Does everyone think that this guy is.

A. A rep fired on a PIP a few months ago
B. A rep fired 2 years ago on the initial layoff that still can't find a job.
C. A rep fired on a PIP in the winter.

Or just an idiot who apparently has nothing better to do?

I vote for the idiot!

How about all of the above....LOL......man what a loser. Actually Metanx is going well and the Neuropathy indication seems to be working great because I have numerous docs who say that it is working for their patients. Off Label, On label whatever labels if they are telling me the fucking shit works then by God I am going to keep detailing the neuropathy message. Hell, its 10X the message we had for Cardiologists. Metanx is going to help us all get nice comm. checks this year.

Option D. A former rep who saw the light and got out making more money and treated with respect. so............ the answer is NO FDA Indication for Neuropathy but it does work. That is all that is needed to know. How is the coverage now adays with medicare part D. Not stirring shit. just telling ya'll the truth. You all must be real proud to wake up everymorning to sell Vitamins. C&C was another ball game and was fun. I'm sure Metanx and Cerefolin are doing well?

Does the word 'Ethical' mean anything to you? In the mid 90's the buzz was vitamin E to treat CVD. In 2000 it was Foltx for Homocystiene the B vitamins, yet nothing was proven. Now its Diabetic Nephropathy unproven. When does the FDA shut PAL down? Science and medicine should not be about assumptions!

Who gives a shit what we sell.....hell they pay me, give me a car, pay for lunch, pay the insurance, pretty good commission check, manage does not breathe down my neck, I am selling 400K this year, comm. check should be 25K........yeah man, life is hard at Pamlab.

Christian morals, professional ethics? What has happened to Pan American?

Just another bunch of used car sales people- say what it takes to get the sale- fact or fiction.

Is this what your dream has become Mr Camp? I am glad they stole my dream. This seems more like a nightmare than a great place to work!

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Who gives a shit what we sell.....hell they pay me, give me a car, pay for lunch, pay the insurance, pretty good commission check, manage does not breathe down my neck, I am selling 400K this year, comm. check should be 25K........yeah man, life is hard at Pamlab.

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"pay for lunch"....haha, you would think that is a perk, you dont know anything about sales. and only a pal rep would think that a 25k commission check is a lot....sad sad sad.

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Who gives a shit what we sell.....hell they pay me, give me a car, pay for lunch, pay the insurance, pretty good commission check, manage does not breathe down my neck, I am selling 400K this year, comm. check should be 25K........yeah man, life is hard at Pamlab.

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"pay for lunch"....haha, you would think that is a perk, you dont know anything about sales. and only a pal rep would think that a 25k commission check is a lot....sad sad sad.

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Good ole PAL...I love this site, I love seeing the shit posted on here this is better than any sitcom on T.V. these days. The other sites are so boring because they deal with real Pharma. It is funny as hell to read the shit you guys put up with. A 25k check Wooooo. Big boy Steven pays real well for vitamins HAHAHAHA. I am sorry but this thread is the funniest on here. There is life elsewhere...seek and ye shall find. Keep up the funny stories guys its good stuff. BTW what the fuck is a fireside chat you talk about ?

I cam from big pharma (GSK) and I can honestly say that PAL is by far better than "Big Pharma". My fucking manager would ride with me every other day, nag about stupid shit, etc. At PAL my manager is cool, we have awesome ride alongs. PAL is a great company to work for and just because you got fired and your Unemployment check looks like my grocery receipt don't be a hater.

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I cam from big pharma (GSK) and I can honestly say that PAL is by far better than "Big Pharma". My fucking manager would ride with me every other day, nag about stupid shit, etc. At PAL my manager is cool, we have awesome ride alongs. PAL is a great company to work for and just because you got fired and your Unemployment check looks like my grocery receipt don't be a hater.

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Little man your mommy has told you not to play on the computer. Go back and ask "teeth man" Stooge to give you a little suck. So I promise not to be a "mofo hater later I can rap as a gator so dont mess with the bro later no hater" I acn rap you shit !! What a fucking tool douch !! So littl man smell your ass some more your are the dumbest ass I have ever seen. Oh and did you even graduate highschool ? http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/cool.gif

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I cam from big pharma (GSK) and I can honestly say that PAL is by far better than "Big Pharma". My fucking manager would ride with me every other day, nag about stupid shit, etc. At PAL my manager is cool, we have awesome ride alongs. PAL is a great company to work for and just because you got fired and your Unemployment check looks like my grocery receipt don't be a hater.

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I admire your enthusism, but Sam has said to stay off this devil website, it will steal your dream. He is now going to go through and see who we hired from GSK and you will be let go without notice and your family will suffer. BTW, you must have taken a major pay decrease to come here. I would bet you were let go on a downsize or fired. You would have to ba an idiot to give up a job there to take one here.

No! Metanx does not have FDA approval for the indication of Diabetic Neuropathy. Since the company will not tell us the truth, I did my own homework.

Is metansex indicated for crabs? My RM gave me a really bad case. Tracey told me talk some Foltx and it would cure it right up!

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Does the word 'Ethical' mean anything to you? In the mid 90's the buzz was vitamin E to treat CVD. In 2000 it was Foltx for Homocystiene the B vitamins, yet nothing was proven. Now its Diabetic Nephropathy unproven. When does the FDA shut PAL down? Science and medicine should not be about assumptions!

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Well, I for one, would just like to say thank you with all my heart to whichever Pamlab rep told my doctor about Metanx. Before I started Metanx I took everything under the sun. I blew $1000's, and not only did I not feel better, I was either sick, tired, or numb. I hadn't slept through the night in 10 years and came close to amputation twice. Once, I stepped on something in a lake and swam and walked around for nearly two hours with two toes literally hanging from my foot by a strand of skin, and didn't even know until a woman fainted when I was climbing on the boat dock. I didn't even know it had happened. Doctor said I was lucky they didn't have to amputate.

So quit talking about ethics. Is it ethical to keep giving patients $100 medicines so big wealthy pharmacy companies get rich on drugs that have more side effects than efficacy. Finally, I found something that works. I haven't felt this good in years, and I have been able to go back to work for the first time in five years. I don't know who approves Metanx, but I know it works. And I believe it would be unethical to deny me something that has changed my life drastically for the better instead of force me to keep taking drugs that aren't working and just might be killing me. I don't know what I would have done if I my doctor hadn't given Metanx a try on me. I was close to the end, and I mean it. I was no use to anyone, certainly not my family. If anything, I was a burden. I couldn't do anything, and you try looking into your childs face as your wife struggles to make ends meet cause you can't find a freaking drug that doesn't make you feel worse than taking nothing, and does even less good. Ethics...what a freaking joke. All I can say, is thank God for Metanx. My feet feel close to normal for the first time in a decade, and I can actually get a good night's sleep again. And I don't have to feel doped up. Metanx saved my life, probably my marriage, and now, when I come home from work, I can sit at the table and look across at my family with pride instead of shame. So save your ethics speech for your lawyers and big pharmacy buddies. It would be just like some white collar wealthy snake to go after a product like Metanx that really works, so guys like me can waste away blowing money on "real" drugs that don't work. Here's your expensive piece of shit Mr. Blue Collar, don't worry about the taste or smell because we are a big time pharmacy company and have lots of money to make worthless shit taste and smell great. And you will be happy to know, that unlike vitamins that might work great like Metanx, our product, though worthless and sure to drain your pockets while compeletely making you feel like shit, is properly wrapped in all the appropriate legal tappings, paid for courtesy of large sums of big pharmacy money given to all the right people. And by the way, it may not make you feel as good as Metanx, but our piece of shit comes with a great big pharmacy name on the package. And did I mention that your piece of shit will be wrapped with a pink bow so large, only the cost of our medication can dwarf it.

No thanks, I'll take Metanx.

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Does the word 'Ethical' mean anything to you? In the mid 90's the buzz was vitamin E to treat CVD. In 2000 it was Foltx for Homocystiene the B vitamins, yet nothing was proven. Now its Diabetic Nephropathy unproven. When does the FDA shut PAL down? Science and medicine should not be about assumptions!

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Well, I for one, would just like to say thank you with all my heart to whichever Pamlab rep told my doctor about Metanx. Before I started Metanx I took everything under the sun. I blew $1000's, and not only did I not feel better, I was either sick, tired, or numb. I hadn't slept through the night in 10 years and came close to amputation twice. Once, I stepped on something in a lake and swam and walked around for nearly two hours with two toes literally hanging from my foot by a strand of skin, and didn't even know until a woman fainted when I was climbing on the boat dock. I didn't even know it had happened. Doctor said I was lucky they didn't have to amputate.

So quit talking about ethics. Is it ethical to keep giving patients $100 medicines so big wealthy pharmacy companies get rich on drugs that have more side effects than efficacy. Finally, I found something that works. I haven't felt this good in years, and I have been able to go back to work for the first time in five years. I don't know who approves Metanx, but I know it works. And I believe it would be unethical to deny me something that has changed my life drastically for the better instead of force me to keep taking drugs that aren't working and just might be killing me. I don't know what I would have done if I my doctor hadn't given Metanx a try on me. I was close to the end, and I mean it. I was no use to anyone, certainly not my family. If anything, I was a burden. I couldn't do anything, and you try looking into your childs face as your wife struggles to make ends meet cause you can't find a freaking drug that doesn't make you feel worse than taking nothing, and does even less good. Ethics...what a freaking joke. All I can say, is thank God for Metanx. My feet feel close to normal for the first time in a decade, and I can actually get a good night's sleep again. And I don't have to feel doped up. Metanx saved my life, probably my marriage, and now, when I come home from work, I can sit at the table and look across at my family with pride instead of shame. So save your ethics speech for your lawyers and big pharmacy buddies. It would be just like some white collar wealthy snake to go after a product like Metanx that really works, so guys like me can waste away blowing money on "real" drugs that don't work. Here's your expensive piece of shit Mr. Blue Collar, don't worry about the taste or smell because we are a big time pharmacy company and have lots of money to make worthless shit taste and smell great. And you will be happy to know, that unlike vitamins that might work great like Metanx, our product, though worthless and sure to drain your pockets while compeletely making you feel like shit, is properly wrapped in all the appropriate legal tappings, paid for courtesy of large sums of big pharmacy money given to all the right people. And by the way, it may not make you feel as good as Metanx, but our piece of shit comes with a great big pharmacy name on the package. And did I mention that your piece of shit will be wrapped with a pink bow so large, only the cost of our medication can dwarf it.

No thanks, I'll take Metanx.

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Hey Little Man get the FUCK OFF CP----go get in on browns corn hole or something

Get over yourself dude. Simple fact that Metanx works for people and it's giving relief to people. You need to move on with your life. If you are still working here, find a new job. If not, why do you care anyway?

Agreed. Sorry you have so much anger built up inside you. But it's only you it's destoying. PamLabs goes on and so does little Stevie. Move on.

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Agreed. Sorry you have so much anger built up inside you. But it's only you it's destoying. PamLabs goes on and so does little Stevie. Move on.

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Yeah !! You get em Pan Man !! Yee Haw !! http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/cool.gif

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Hey "doc", go fuck yourself and get a life instead of stirring up shit on a pharma web board anonymously. You fucking loser. If you are a doctor, I am a fucking Interventional Cardiologist.

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Funny! remember we use to call on Cardiologist. It actually felt like FOLTX MADE A DIFFRENCE

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Hey "doc", go fuck yourself and get a life instead of stirring up shit on a pharma web board anonymously. You fucking loser. If you are a doctor, I am a fucking Interventional Cardiologist.

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Funny! remember we use to call on Cardiologist. It actually felt like FOLTX MADE A DIFFRENCE

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Shit a Pan Man in a Cardioloy office would be like seeing a Turkey showing up at Turkey shoot Thanksgiving Day !! That would be funny !!

A third of patients will respond to two teaspoons of horse shit. Every hear of the placebo effect. We don't practice medicine based upon subjective patient reports. It's called evidence based medicine. Your quack vitamin may work- then again Foltx worked until it was studied.

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Agreed. Sorry you have so much anger built up inside you. But it's only you it's destoying. PamLabs goes on and so does little Stevie. Move on.

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Hi Tracy, Jeff or Steve......good try.

Hey little stphen, you may go "on" and your two-bit company but your father will always think of Tracy as his true son.
Little stephen was always second, if not, third place.

THERE IS NO FUCKING INDICATION FOR ANYTHING AT PAL SO SHUT THE FUCK UP !! PAL SELLS FUCKING VITAMINS----NO INDICATION !!! DAMN !!

9 people on. still no word from corporate yet?

Wow, now that I have ended my visit to some fucked-up 3rd grade blog site, let me say you ALL are worse than any Kirby salesman I have ever encountered !

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Wow, now that I have ended my visit to some fucked-up 3rd grade blog site, let me say you ALL are worse than any Kirby salesman I have ever encountered !

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We most certainly are not !! We make an indication for everything and anything, only problem is the damn Doctors keep doing studies on our "fine" products--uhh Vitamins--- that cure anything you have. We can be found at the corner of 1st and Main on a card table with a fat ugly dude in Sansabelt slacks and a sign "Lemonade for Sale $60/mo". Go peanut Go peanut Go !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah....here's a thought.....GO FUCK YOURSELF!

Dear Anonymouse, If you're so strongly opinionated, why not have the cohones to sign your 'thought' .??? mia

Oh Mia, mia, mia, you have no clue about the benefits of this website!! The truth actually comes out on this site because there is no consequences to voicing ones opinions. This site just helps people see what this company is really all about!

Metanx is a miracle for me. It really does work. I would like to thank the highly intelligent podiatrist who prescibed this for my daughter. She was crying and in misery from burning pain in her feet. She was given ibuprophen from another podiatrist for the pain. However I took her to another Doctor who gave her metanx. She can walk again. I am not saying she is totally cured but she is not crying from foot pain and burning. And she says her feet feel better. If you have diabetic periphreal neuropathy..get metanx it will save your limbs. She felt better in less then one week.

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Metanx is a miracle for me. It really does work. I would like to thank the highly intelligent podiatrist who prescibed this for my daughter. She was crying and in misery from burning pain in her feet. She was given ibuprophen from another podiatrist for the pain. However I took her to another Doctor who gave her metanx. She can walk again. I am not saying she is totally cured but she is not crying from foot pain and burning. And she says her feet feel better. If you have diabetic periphreal neuropathy..get metanx it will save your limbs. She felt better in less then one week.

"It will save your limbs." Stupid. Why make up a long bullshit ass story and then give away that you sell this shit right at the end by saying the exact line we're supossed to feed doctors?

If this product was such a miracle drug then why is it not a billion dollar product? Why do most HMO's not even pay for it? Shout its not even a drug.

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We most certainly are not !! We make an indication for everything and anything, only problem is the damn Doctors keep doing studies on our "fine" products--uhh Vitamins--- that cure anything you have. We can be found at the corner of 1st and Main on a card table with a fat ugly dude in Sansabelt slacks and a sign "Lemonade for Sale $60/mo". Go peanut Go peanut Go !!

Guys, Why do you keep wasting your time on unnecessary squables that are irrelevant? You either want to work for this company or not. you either believe in the benefit of these products or not. What concerns me is that i have heard from a reliable source the SS from Louisiana is leaving this company to go work for another company. This concerns me since from what I have heard he has done a lot for this company and is compensated well. Why would a rep making extremely good money, more than he could make anywhere else opt to go work for another company unless something is really wrong? Has anyone else heard this? What is going on?

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Guys, Why do you keep wasting your time on unnecessary squables that are irrelevant? You either want to work for this company or not. you either believe in the benefit of these products or not. What concerns me is that i have heard from a reliable source the SS from Louisiana is leaving this company to go work for another company. This concerns me since from what I have heard he has done a lot for this company and is compensated well. Why would a rep making extremely good money, more than he could make anywhere else opt to go work for another company unless something is really wrong? Has anyone else heard this? What is going on?

Who are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guys, Why do you keep wasting your time on unnecessary squables that are irrelevant? You either want to work for this company or not. you either believe in the benefit of these products or not. What concerns me is that i have heard from a reliable source the SS from Louisiana is leaving this company to go work for another company. This concerns me since from what I have heard he has done a lot for this company and is compensated well. Why would a rep making extremely good money, more than he could make anywhere else opt to go work for another company unless something is really wrong? Has anyone else heard this? What is going on?

Steven Smith

The silver lining in your statement is "Why would a rep making extremely good money, more than he could make anywhere else opt to go work for another company". Believe it or not much to your nievity there are many other companies in the pharma industry that pays more money than Pamlabs. Plus many other companies have more career growth, such as marketing, management, hospital sales, new product launch and development etc. Companies like Cephalon, Ista, Cubist, Gilead, Endo, Prometheus labs, Soreno, and Millennium have been known to start experienced reps in the 75k-95k range. Some people do see the light and move on from this shit hole. The grass is always greener after leaving Pamlabs!

And the question remains yet to be answered; Does Metanx have an FDA approval? Mr. Anonymous with the scatalogical reply proved typical by assaulting the question and not answering it. For me, as a practicing physician, Anonymous answered the question completely. NO it is not FDA approved and there is not much hope of getting one.

PS: I signed mine