I got my “sorry we went with another candidate” voicemail from a P1 recruiter (not the one I’ve been dealing with) yesterday. I have been strung along and waiting since the first part of June. Just thought I’d share for those that have been waiting forever like me!
When the BIIB ministry of propaganda pivots on a dime like this, admits this likely is not going to end well and tries to shame you for not being daring enough, as a reaction to post #275, you know which side is being sober and truthful and which side is blowing smoke
Not sure why you’re here then. Sounds like you’ve already made up your mind. We’ll probably be ok without you. And, I’m pretty sure no one shamed you for not being ‘daring’ enough, I think that person just said they, personally, were ok with assuming a bit of risk, as the only downside is finding a new job. Not sure how that’s a referendum on you. If you want safety and security every day, I’m not sure where you’ll find it, but it’s certainly not in pharma.
AD is not depression or some candy ass psych indication. Also you can have negative trials if you also have some positive ones. Biogen has zero positive phase 3 studies. A single positive post hoc analysis, after failing your interim analysis and stopping your trial due to futility, is a laughably low level of evidence. I mean more power to Biogen for engaging with FDA, but I hope they are being honest with employees regarding chances of approval.
Biogen is never honest with its reps. It’s high probability that this new salesforce gets hit with a lay off within its 1st year.
As an insider, I can say this weeks news that another Alzheimer’s drug failed was another body blow. Many on the inside now feel this drug has nearly no chance of approval without proof of some sort of efficacy in a Phase 3 study (let alone 2 that is more industry standard). Good luck to all.
Like I said early on in this thread. This drug has 0% chance of approval and the MOA / theory of plaque is flawed. Plaque is like a scab...get rid of the scab and you bleed. It’s not the answer and unfortunately hasn’t worked in any trial. They have been looking at drugs like this for almost 20 years and they all fail.
You smucks are bitter losers with no inside scoop. Nobody giving ypu losers any inside scoop on anything accept how to collect your unemployment checks.
I heard this Friday - regret taking the gamble on this job, plan on looking for new job starting Monday.
There has been so much time, money, and most importantly entire academic/medical research careers that have been dedicated to this amyloid plaque theory, and almost the same with Tau. Their need to continue with this theory is not based on THINKING there is still some hope in it, but rather they're not giving up because they NEED it to be true or work to some extent. Imagine being in your 40's or 50's or 60's and being told your life's work is absolute junk? That is why many in this field keep at it and overhype and chase ghosts in the data for small subsets, or are cheering this on. They cannot let it go, otherwise their research has been rather fruitless. Arrogance and ego keep it alive. Its going to take some young, risk-taking, go-against the grain type researchers to get people dedicated to the TA to shift off of this theory.
Well said. There is also quite a bit of money involved. Not only research grants to keep careers alive, but also big pharma. A lot of thought leaders have turned themselves into prostitutes; say anything as long as the checks cash.
I’m very hopeful the approval happens. Would be incredible for our company and more importantly the patients. But, the chance of approval is zero point zero.. Sad but true