Biotech doesnt respect Pfizer reps

Back in the 80s and 90s, before lawyers and marketing took over the industry, a good rep could get into a good clinical discussions with physicians. They were allowed to converse the clinical data to support their products vs canned selling points allowed only by marketing. Quality Of a call with key clinical data was paramount with a good rep. Afraid not anymore

 

Pfizer & big pharma not legally afraid, they just dont teach or training clinically or technically anymore after initial product certification training. They are driven 100% by marketing so called research & focused on Patients driving the decision vs physicians so the message is dummied down common language with a top line marketing canned message w a glossy for 30sec. 80% of money at big pharma is put into DTC TV & print ads.
Totally opposite than Biotech which are smaller & clinical training focused on research & science. Like Big pharma was 30 yrs ago.

Probably why Biotech reps get paid 100k more a year to use their brains while Pfizer reps are soliders just taking orders & doing call activity with CORE message every single call like a robot. Nothing against Pfizer or big pharma reps, not their fault as that is what they are trained to do & directed to do by HQ VPs

 

Dude you have some major security little man issues. Go see a professional if not you will be same disgruntle self 20yrs from now in the same lifestyle. All your comments are the same tone. Get a life & enjoy it .

 

So true. True across all divisions too. 25+ years ago you had to know your clinicals like a resident. Specialty reps were the best at this skill and worked the teaching institutions. Sadly the marketing and legal departments turned the reps into commercials in the flow of the doctors day.

 

Not really, as we have Thanksgiving at my house since it is the largest to accomodate my big family of doctors who are still paying off student loans w 10% interest while i cash in on company stock (last yr RSU alone that came due was 2.6 million) so no embarrassment being the non doctor in the family (i ve even loaned my nuero surgeon brother 500k for his practice since I own his office building he and my sister lease.)

 

That's bullshit. Biotech is filled with the same mobile message marketers. 95% or more don't know shit about the science. Just the talking points.

 

Dont be envious just get another job that pays more than the 175k your make now.

 

You were encouraged and expected to get into a challenging data based discussion with your physicians. We were expected to know the literature and were considered deficient if you did not provide features and benefits of your products. In other words, what this means to your patients. Now Pfizer only allows you to say only marketing points.
What happens when Dr asks specific questions about specific patients? Sad sad sad.

 

Jeez that ended around 2005 when we wrote the 2.3B check. Move on.

 

And folks that is why physicians, staff & other companies do not respect Pfizer reps & better known as Grubhub specialists.
Legal or not, its what everyone thinks of Pfizer reps

 

That was due to Pfizer upper management pushing non indications with Bextra

 

WRON . Had nothing to do with Bextra.
That 2billion fine was for off indication use of Nuerontin (Gabapentin) for DN but being used for other nerve pain off indications.

 

Ladies & Gentlemen REGARDLESS of the reason Pfizer can not or will not let reps sell clinically or technically the past 10yrs, industry & physicians see this on daily basis thus why ZERO respect for Pfizer reps. No value outside of Starbucks & food like GrubHub & Uber Eats delivery person.
Truth is Reality & hurts!

 

You can always know your product, (thoroughly), disease state, and competition. Even if your franchise suggests a commercial, showing the HCP you have the above knowledge and can speak to them compliantly, you'll come out ahead in their estimation. Work with what you have and make the most of it.

 

It was also due to Bextra issues. Was there when it happened

 

True, but if not allowed to have good conversation with your physicians you will lose credibility. You need more than just key marketing message. I am not talking about off label use either

 

"Dr remember Xelkanz is Rapid Powerful Relief. Do you need samples?"
"Any issues with Xelsource?"
Ok lunch will be on its way.
Pay me my 125k salary now.
Yep thats a Pfizer rep for you. Docs laugh.

 

do everyone a favor and go ventilate your tiny brains out the back of your head

 

Yes no value, skills or capability regardless if legal compliance constraints or not , just down right poor reputation w medical community.
Just 125k yr catier.
That is why biotech doesnt hire big pharma especially Pfizer reps & 130 Xeljanz reps went 0 offers for 130 reps who applied for 250 jobs with the top 2 biotechs expansions.
Speaks volumes. As the interview rounds are intense, panel and head2head w the best in biotech. Who else has you present a clinical study for 15min to an entire panel of HQ execs. Pfizer reps dont cut it. 0 for 130.

 

Very very true!