Brican America

Typical narcissistic behavior to assume that others are failures because they do not agree with your view. This poster I can guarantee is one of the scam bag principals of Brican. Sure maybe you can sell things, but so can the Three Card Monti guy on the street corner. bernard Madoff could sell too, and many very intelligent and wealthy people and businesses, apparently did not "read the contract" as your moronic logic suggests. Unfortunately, the Federal Government didn't like the way Madoff "sold" his products and now he is in jail forever. His victims are stupid, lazy, and not concerned with details and just complaint-well according to your asshole logic. Hopefully your logic will get a nice 8x10 cell in a federal penitentiary, while us complaining, lazy failures continue to enjoy our free speech and all other rights given to law abiding citizens.

 

Again, comprehension is an issue with you, which is most likely the reason you are at home, with nothing to do but "debate" if that's what you call your linguistic agility. You just don't read well, so you can't respond appropriately.

So, you just back off and call yourself a winner. This is a constant in your life, correct? You argue and (I believe you are the one who likes to name call, I don't see any names in my response) then you like to believe you've somehow engaged someone, so you can call yourself a winner at the end. But you still end up in the same miserable circle you've always been in, which is selling nothing, not even a used car.

And again, you've revealed yourself as unintelligent, but really trying hard, so good for you for your efforts!

Let me guess, the last company you worked for had some issue which prevented you from being a top producer there as well.

Good luck to you, one of these days you'll get it, or most likely not, but that's why we have classes and hierarchy's, so leaders can lead those who don't know what to do.

 

Wow, any sales manager would be very proud to have the likes of you representing them. Go get em! Profanity, rapists and child molesters, and admitting you have an issue with anger... these are excellent thought patterns for a successful rep. Good luck.

 

Psychoanalysis aside from your part, please provide a counterpoint to the multiple issues I have provided that doctors are having in regards to getting paid. Check out DentalTown and Leasing News as well as what's alledged here, then tell me how this is anything other than what the majority of the posters and contributors are alledging. Making me and any other poster here who disagrees the issue is not addressing the issue at hand. What has drawn the ire of everyone here is your insistance of using this insane argument that the Doctors who had signed these misrepresented leases are the ones at fault. Again, your use of oversimplification in regards to the language and tone people are using as a way to discredit them is laughable. Anyone who has ever used scatalogical language or colorful ways to get their point across has anger management issues? Is a domestic abuser? Poor salesman? Low class, etc, etc? If you go down that path, you are painting a broad brush and apparently assigning that label to most people in our society. As most have resorted to that at some point in their life when dealing with people who don't engage in analytical thought and just don't get it. If you would, address the points that were provided as evidence against this organization. Which you can't, so that is why you are resorting to the methods described above.

 

all i can say is wow! you all should be embarrassed of yourselves, blaming a company for all of your faults. Your right it must of been Brican's fault you could not sell ice in hell, or it must of been Brican's fault that you did not read your lease... you guys are ignorant! The system is a good system if you put it to use properly, unfortunately you sorry excuses for sale reps can only sell the thing by promising money in return...losers! So not only are you a crappy salesman , but you crappy technique is the reason us doctors are upset , Brican did not make faulty promises , crappy sales reps do! Is the system a bit expensive... sure it is, but the service that Brican provides with high quality shows and custom shows is top notch, your not going to find that in other systems. Brican's only down fall are there crappy sales reps who promise and can not deliver!

 

You got to love this moron Vincens. Can't write English much better than a 4th grader, but he is a success, and everyone else is a loser. Here is the deal you fucking piece of shit Canadian, go back to your socialist country and try selling your TV sets there. Hopefully soon, the only TV set you will have will be the 12 inch black and white in the jail cell you will be sharing with another convicted criminal. Get the fuck off the rep board, you're a tool box. Every every time you post with your broken English and moronic logic makes you look even more ignorant than you are.

 

I don't have a sales manager, I'm one of the people you fucked over with your lies, and unethical behavior. Let's leave it at that. Hopefully you're sorry ass will be dealt a healthy dose of retribution one day soon.

 

http://hubpages.com/hub/CROOK_ALERT__Big_Pharma_Bribes_our_Doctors_and_Legislators

Unfortunately, YOU assumed that you and others were failures because (you also assume) that I thought everyone would agree with my opinion? I knew hardly anyone would. Most of the reps that post to this site, and now I assume, work for device and/or pharma companies, since it's called pharmacafe.

(in case hubpages is not credibly for you, how about CBS)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/03/cbsnews_investigates/main5514603.shtml

Now, the most grotesque hypocrisy, other than my own -- we're all hypocrits to varying degrees and I'm human, fallible and wrong all the time -- is the fact that anyone one of you would say that a company like Brican (also hilarious that anyone who responds to my posts assumes that I not only represent them, but now I'm suddenly a principal there) is doing such criminal harm, selling a system to Dr.'s who can do a lot more than just read, but perform surgery in peoples mouths, much like the Casey system (which you might also call a total rip off if you just took a look at THAT profit margin for what they get -- holy cow!) but that offers services that no one else will provide those doctors. Most of you who've responded to the idea that those who buy should be taking responsibility for such a purchase, and again I assume, ARE medical device/drug salespeople, yes? And YOU are in an ethical business? Selling an ethical product? At a "low-margin" cost that really helps out the end user of your product-- the patient? Really? As you go out to sell drugs to docs and offer them bonuses based how much of your product they peddle to their patients, YOU are doing something ethical? A drug which article after article, even in the most reputable of all new sources would call out and out criminal in terms of it's enormous profit margin? You mean to say, that Brican getting sued for $38 million is a real crime, selling TVs and from what I saw in the system, a pretty damn huge library of useful tools for professionals that they couldn't pay a graphic designer to do for anywhere near less than the system cost, you can honestly say that a 10 to 1 profit margin, with fully disclosed documents is worse than $6 billion dollars A YEAR, for YEARS NOW, selling drugs to the ELDERLY, who have absolutely NO WAY to even cognitively object to the stuff they're being force fed on a daily basis, and YOU feel ethical selling THAT crap.

I must be the asshole, insane, r***** you say I am, but give me a tv system and computer any day to sell to a doc who (from what I have heard directly from the 18 dentists I spoke with myself yesterday in researching this - I'm a writer for newspapers and online, NOT a salesperson) actually helped them sell cases for over $15,000 that they would not have otherwise sold -- yeah, real criminal -- give me that bag a tricks to sell any day over DRUGS that kill old people who can't say no. As well as page after page of medical reports issued by medical associations known globally reporting the number of SMALL CHILDREN that DIE YEARLY from ridiculous, waste of time drugs... which also cost the PARENTS of those children, the HUGE profit that the drug company used to pay fat bonuses (I've thoroughly researched that as well, so have at me.) Ok. Brican is a real cancer that should be removed, whew, glad you sales reps really know your stuff.

Good luck. The day may not come in your lifetime. But it will come if you're peddling that garbage. Gosh, I can't believe Brican would make dentists actually pay for all that sutff, I mean it would be so much more noble if companies just GAVE stuff away for almost nothing. You know, through and through, that is the perspective of people who do not know what it takes to dig deep and provide for themselves, instead of sit around on their trade sites complaining.

You all take care of yourselves, you may find yourselves on the receiving end of those incredibly overpriced devices, supplies and drugs you're selling.

Peace, Love and Fulfillment in all that you do. Ethics are good too.

 

I missed your presentation of any kind of evidence whatsoever of what you speak? Someone, somewhere here said that the CEO decided to charge more for the systems "to make more money", uh. In any place on earth, that's a crime? Or even a bad thing? See my last post on pharma profit margins.

Also, if you yourself would like to upload a lease and other documents the doc's signed and point out the "misleading info" I'd love to see it? I've looked over the documents myself and know them very well, since I'm writing something on the subject. Let's take a look, please, grace me with your keen observation of misleading info. I didn't see any.

Now, I have a really strong gut (psychoanalytic) feeling that you'll have nothing in the way of any detail, but name call again and then back down. Because, if you DID actually have a specific reference on all this misleading info, you'd have presented it. And simply referencing the litigation is illegitimate, as that is a court case and you are not a jury, so ruling your own judgement would make you such. Let's go over the documents. It's all there as far as I can see.

Up to you.

 

You do relize by engaging with these pissed off reps only keeps the fire burning. Let them vent and move on! They will get over it and so will you. This is making you look real bad!

 

This is great! I am a dentist, and today I called Brican. They said they would send me a letter explaining what they plan to do about the lies they used to get me to buy this system. My question to those who seem to love this mess: If you buy a car and they offer you a large rebate, did the rebate help you make your choice to buy it or did you go to another dealer to buy one without??? The rebate is the catch. Brican clearly sold their system with a great rebate which they now can't give. SCAM!! I am currently organizing a rather large group of dentists to file a lawsuit and get us all out of this scam. If anyone can help, Just say you can help and I will soon post how and who you can contact to provide information for our cause. The finance company is trying to sue also but are telling the dentists that they are still responsible for the lease agreement. We are going to challange it with the help of the American Dental Association lawyers.

More to come..........

 

Great post doc. At the end of the day you have called a spade a spade. All the philosophical rantings of the unethical owners of Brican on this board just reinforce what we all know-Brican is a scam, plain and simple. Thanks for your insight.

 

I agree. Thanks for the post doc. Hopefully this can be a resource for other doctors hoodwinked by this company. Now to the Brican Cheerleader/Management on this board (S.P.) lets have another lecture on personal responsibility. Come on, you've already alienated all the salespeople, let's make it two for two by going after the clients as well!

 

Yep, let me get right to that and upload any supposed leases or documents that I would have. Nice try in attempting to goad me into that one. I don't need the documents to know what was told to me, and what further information I have is coming from Vincens in his DEPOSITION. Not the complaint, the DEPOSITION. So if you are telling me that going by his word given under oath is illegitimate, than I guess that answers that. Come on now, lets keep making more friends on here buddy. Don't worry, dentists don't google Brican and if they did, google doesn't auto fill with "Brican America Lawsuit", "Brican America Scam" and "Brican America Fraud". BTW, a doc just posted on here saying he is organizing a group of dentists and they are suing Brican with the assistance of the American Dental Association's attorneys. Let's take a swipe at those crooked ADA bastards, right?

 

Does anyone know if the Drs. who signed up can use the out clause in the marketing agreement to cancel the lease?

 

Unfortunately the problem is that the doctors are bound to the lease because the lease is with a third party, and not with Brican. Once the lease is signed, the leasing company pays Brican in full, and the doctor essentially reimburses the lease company over time. The Brican America system sucks, and there is no ongoing reimbursement by Viso, it was a just a false incentive, a lie, to get doctors signed up. No one would pay $500 a month for this system, but with the supposed reimbursement, making the payment next to nothing it seemed like a feasible product. Problem was there was never any plan to continue to reimbursement. Brican scammed the entire lease payment, and left the doctor bound to the leasing company.
It would be similar to buying a no name, low quality car. You agree to lease it through GE Capital. The car breaks down, falls apart, you can't get parts, all the dealers go out of business. You still have to pay the lease because it is with GE Capital, not the no name low quality car company. Unfortunately it is doubtful that there is any way out of the leases, except to stop paying which is somewhat unethical since the doctors did sign up and agreed to pay as agreed in the lease agreement. Its a very bad situation, that goes way beyond, "not reading the lease" like the Brican management jerk off suggests.

 

Yes, but brican has an agreement with the Drs. that says if Viso does not pay, brican will buy back the lease. Sounds like the leasing company and brican were in on the scam from the very beginning. The $38 million dallor lawsuit seems like a smokescreen to me. I think the Drs. should all stop paying and see what happens. The leasing company had to know what they were getting. I doubt they would pay $25k-plus for equipment they know is worth a quarter of that. This is not the first rodeo apparently for brican and people in the industry know their reputation.

 

let me help some of these folks out. from some research I've done, and no one can top my research abilities, at least not to my knowledge... yet, but from the research I've done, you can pack the crap up, send it back as an "early return" and also, prior to doing that, meet/talk with your attorney and have them draft a legal letter saying that due to, oh I don't know, negligence on BA's part to fulfill THEIR end of the agreement under which the practice engaged the contracts, you "could" possible argue (in your legal letter) that the whole thing is null and void -- these contracts will show simultaneous signatures and being sent to the home office at the same time, so...

it's a good possibility that might just get docs out of this deal and be done with it. After all, as far as I know, you might owe a few bucks (tiny in comparison to the whole deal) or maybe even zilch if you return a leased car early. Just a thought to help the docs out.

 

Fantastic news!!, now I can return my leased car even though I have 3 years left on it, same principle right? I can't wait to see how that works out...The leasing company will most certainly let me off the hook because the dealer is not performing its service adequately..hmm

 

The leasing company was not colluding with Brican. The leasing company was also scammed by Brican, in that they were not told of the "reimbursement" by Vizio Lasik. That fundamentally changed the lease terms. When the leasing company found out that 1300 lease had been written with Doctors all over the country, and Brican did not disclose the Vizio "side agreement" they had made, the leasing company immediately stopping writing leases with Brican and sued them. The leasing company looked at the situation this way-if Brican told the doctors the doctors were to be reimbursed by Vizeo, Brican should have also told the leasing company. Lets face it, if the reimbursement ceased, it is very unlikely the doctors would continue to pay the lease. It is exactly what is happening here. Doctors are figuring out a way NOT to pay the lease. If this little reimbursement fact was known to the leasing company, they would not have approved 1300 leases for Brican. For anyone to say this was not a well thought out deliberate scam is just plain not looking at this for what it is. The doctors were sold a worthless product, the leasing company approved leases based on incomplete or fraudulent information provided by Brican. This is a criminal activity, beyond the $38 Million dollar lawsuit, hopefully law enforcement gets involved with this, and someone goes to jail.