career ladder 4

I was told that I made too much money and I'm being put up for career ladder four. I was just curious what the average salary might be for a level four rep. I have a lot of experience and have just recently joined AZ. Is it worth the headaches to go through the process?

 

Sure if you get a raise. What is your base now?

 

Almost no one is a 4 at this company. You basically have to sell your soul to get a 4 ranking, and even then, they'll do everything possible to keep you at a 3. Crawl up your DSM or RSM's a$$ as far as you can (talent is inconsequential) and you may just get there.

 

And, once you make it as I did in 2004 you will become a target. It's not worth it.

I received a 5% raise then. Now?

 

That sounds like my DS1 oral partner.....AZZhole at its best

 

Chutes and ladders?

 

Virtually impossible. They have purposely made cl4 unattainable. There might be 1:50 chance if that. And years with AZ means diddly squat. It might say 8-12 years to attain, but most have left AZ for more base $ with another co. by then. (bottom line) is more like 15 plus years to even be considered.

 

As soon as you do make it they will get rid of you because you make too much $$$.

It's not worth the ass kissing!

 

I made 4 as an once rep in 2006. It was a shitload of work and I was turned down the first year I submitted for it. As I remember, the raise was not all that substantial. When the once franchise imploded at the end of 2008, I was offered a spot back in primary care, where my asswipe DM continually threw it in my face and I was laid off in 2012. My oversized salary as a result of my once years and the level 4 were probably key contributing factors.

 

I'm a career ladder 4 with AZ in the. $90K -$120 range if that helps.
AZ is a good company with great benefits. If you move to biotech or into oncology you will def make more, probably closer to $130 or higher.

 

Not worth any of the future aggravation. Easier to be a three and not deal with the bs.

 

Moving to career ladder 4 just means that you will hold a medal and another stripe on your uniform of a company that no longer exists as we know it in a few years. Career ladder is meant to be a career opportunity which no longer exists at AZ. All moves up are only temporary here.

 

Who gives a rip about cl4? Seriously,it's easier to get there than stay there.yeah, maybe a few thousand bump in $$, subtract taxes and what, $3000 more? The simple math equates to $125 more per paycheck for more stress, more expectations on a consistent basis.so, ask yourself that beforehand. Stay cl3, under the radar, and you'll be A o.k.

 

What about CL5? I heard that's pretty hard to obtain.

 

Used to see them paraded on video at district or regional meetings, at least on the specialty sides where people can reach higher ladders. Talking to one he said it probably wasn't worth the expectations afterwards.

 

after an exceptionally great year with a product that was getting hammered and I was able to grow my share substantially I was given a 6% raise in my base. I looked at my manager and said, "You realize that you just put a huge target on my back, don't you?"

I am white, over 50, a woman, (not bad looking, dress well, kept the pounds off) I was gone in 2 years.

Continued to perform well over the next 2 years, then "gee, we are sorry, but your position is being eliminated" - Bull's Eye...!

Actually happy to have the stress out of my life. Moved over to Technology Sales, selling in the Hospital/Health Systems space; took an initial hit in my salary - bonus was better and now my salary far exceeds what I was earning here.

Can you imagine, no ride alongs, no administration bullsh**, no metrics, no signs that say " no reps allowed" - just a sales goal, hit it and all are happy.

 

Career ladder... It's how far you can take it up the ass each meeting. That's what progresses you. Vaseline and a sock to bite down on.

 

Does CL5 actually still exist at AZ? I thought they were the old oncology reps who are no long gone.