CYMBALTA-- the new oxycontin??

Discussion in 'Eli Lilly' started by Anonymous, May 30, 2007 at 2:16 PM.

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  1. Anonymous

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    As a pharmacist that has seen literaly 100's of people try to get off Cymbalta after finding it does absolutely nothing for them, I find it interesting that Lilly that "really ethical" drug company choose to put it in the doseage forms it comes in. As a compouding pharmacist I find myself spending more and more time helpoing physicains come upwith a means to taper patients off from this addicting drug. Try stopping it after a few months cold turkey and see what happens. ER visit with all kind of bizarre symptoms.
    Can Lilly make it anymore difficult to taper a dose of product?
    Zyprexa tablets that can't be split is bad enough, but really, how much time did you guys spend trying to come up this mess. A bunch of tiny pellets in a capsule that just have easily been put in in a tablet form that could be broken in hlves or quarters to get patients off this addictive drug.
    Lilly used to be a well thought of drug company, but of late all they do is raise prices of existing drugs, make impossible dosing formulations for tapering and kep some guy by the name of Taurel running the show. For what?? MONEY.
    All who work for Lilly should ask themselves what great innovative product have they come up in the last 10 years??
    Don't insult my intelligence by telling me this is the only form that you could possibly make it in. It was done by design and you know it. In my area you are losing business faster than you are replacing it from the all medical specialists once they have to go through this in getting a patient off this drug. I no longer dispense "new" prescritions for Cymbalta and and send the patient down the road with the information I have about geting off it a mediocre drug at best. I tell them to think it over and get back to the prescriber. I have almost a full time job now just compounding alternative doseage forms to help those wishing to get a way from this Effexor like drug since the word has spread in our community that I have the means to take it on and do it successfully.
    Quit looking at the bottom line and start comming up with as you say "answers that matter" for the patient rather than answers that will fill the corporate back accounts. As for Zyprexa, the ethics of medicine do state "do no harm" but again you don't care about the patient, just that botom line and stock options.
    I am currently submitting data to Rep Waxman and Senator Grassley on this issue and hope they rake you guys big time for being the "bad players" you are in the pharmaceutical industry. Lilly is no longer the Lilly that once was top of the line in its field. Get back to what you can really do to help patients and not yourselves.
     
  2. Anonymous

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    wrong forum for this type of complaint.
     
  3. Anonymous

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    Well said!
     
  4. Anonymous

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    Hmmmmm..............a pissed off arrogant pharmacist. What's the odds on that?
     
  5. Anonymous

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  6. Anonymous

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    Cymbalta saved my life when no other antidepressant would work except Nardil. Your population of patients in your pharmacy is different than mine.
     
  7. Anonymous

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    I have worked with pharmacists either in retail pharmacy, hospital pharmacy or as colleagues within Lilly for over 40 years.

    They are individuals which share unique characteristics in common.

    1. They are very intelligent.
    2. They tend to be emphathetic.
    3. They are very careful.
    4. They know how to spell.

    This post is bogus.

    Compound that.
     
  8. Anonymous

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    I've taken Cymbalta . . and have NO idea what the OP is even talking about. . addicting??? must be a joke. Comparing it to Oxycontin?? another doozier
     
  9. Anonymous

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    OP HERE:
    Are all of you Lilly hired bashers and brainwashed "lilly" reps finished?? Face reality. You all live in a fantasy world and just spout whatever the corporate line is. I see this everyday in real life conceerning Cymbalta and not in a make beleive detail type things you guys do at your meetings. This is the truth from the real world and not your training sessions.
    Cymbalta is nothing but a problem and a me-too Effexor. As I remember, my Lilly rep did nothing but bash Effexor when it came out and now he says nothing but glorious things about Cymbalta. All of a sudden the panacea for all mental illness is an Effexor first cousin drug. Why don't you get your stories straight. So sorry I rained on your fantasyworld parade, but you have a product with problems, just like Zyprexa. Oh by the way Lilly also told you there was NO connection btw diabetes and Zyprexa and then go out and spend 1.2 Billion on trying to keep this quite. This will all be exposed in the upcoming congressional investigations for all to finally see what a bunch of liers Lilly has made you all out to be, so get ready to start backtracking with all of the doctors you lied to if they take the time to see you ever again.
    I love to post on this forum facts that nobody can refute, since the majority of you have very limited science background. You get all of your information from marketing via the recent corporate verbatims. As for the comment on saving lives and suicide, why don't you look at your own clinical trials on Cymbalta and see how many people actually commited suicide on this drug for just the very reason I pointed out--withdrawal. It was more than just the one poor college student that was reported in the press nationwide. Then there is all the off label hype with Fibromyalgia useage of Cymbalta before it was even OK'ed by the FDA. Don't think Grassley and Waxman haven't already been made aware about that too.
    The number one reason other than acute medical trama cited as the reason people seek help in ER's nationwide is this withdrawal syndrome with Effexor and Cymbalta. Look it up if you can figure out how to "google".
    Go ahead and bash the fact that I am a pharmacist if you want, but this just exposes your glowing lack of drug knowledge and your own avoidance of clinical data and facts. It's much esier to get your "information" from the marketing people since they too have such a vast knowledge on the one drug they are involved with in their efforts to reap as much money as they can from the product no matter how inferior it may be.
    One can rationalize all you like, but one day you will see what a pawn you are in a huge corporation and how you were lied to repeatedly, perhaps then you can grasp the meaning of my posts.
     
  10. Anonymous

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    I left Lilly and am still a Cymbalta patient. It has helped my anxiety, but the withdrawl is ungodly. You might ask if it is working- why worry about withdrawl? If I very my dosing time by as little as a couple of hours I get ungodly "head-shocks." No I didn't leave Lilly on bad terms so I'm bashing. I still bleed Lilly red, it's just a fact that something is up with Cymbalta. I need to get onto something else- I kick myself every time I think about getting off of Prozac for something new and shiny!

    The withdrawl is real- and it is miserable.
     
  11. Anonymous

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    This was my post...Cymbalta saved my life when no other antidepressant would work except Nardil. Your population of patients in your pharmacy is different than mine.

    I don't work for Lilly, but do work for another pharamceutical company and have worked in clinical medicine for years. I'm a PA/MPH and working on my DPH and I think you're way overboard with this subject matter.

    I started having depression at the age of sixteen, tried every known treatment including ECT at the age of eighteen which didn't even help. At the age of ninteen I began taking Deseryl and had a seizure on it while driving my mother's car while she was in the passenger seat. She was decapitate and killed instantly when the car flipped over. Cymbalta has saved my life!!

    Hell, I wouldn't give a shit if it were addicting in which in my opinion it isn't as the daily life of major depression is so devestating that I couldn't function, ie barely got through the work day, couldn't go to the gym to work out, lost to much weight (and I'm a body builder) , my love life and personal relationships suffered.

    Why are you against a medication that even if it's had negative side effects on some, but has saved other's lives?
     
  12. Anonymous

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    To the OP - are you a trial lawyer in addition to being a pharmacist? Because you definitely come off as a person with a financial agenda per your post. If you are really seeing withdrawal issues, call and report it so it is added to the PI. Last time I checked, that was the legal recourse of the FDA...
     
  13. Anonymous

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    Trial lawyer=yes
    pharmacist=doubtful

    He has a chip on his shoulder and can't spell. Well maybe he is a pharmacist.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    Effexor should be bashed--why so many reps with depression though??? HMMMM
     
  15. Anonymous

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    EVERY rep I know who works for Lilly is depressed.

    It`s the District Managers. They all SUCK!!!!!!!!!!! Sanctimonious assholes who preach GPP while flagrantly violating it themselves, especially TM.