HBO John Oliver's Show

Did anyone see the show last night? Just embarrassing being a drug rep these days. Time to grow up and get a real job!

 

Yes, hilarious. The clip of the Advair launch and D. Baker et al is a must see

 

The DC shoe dropping segment was also a hoot.

 

WOW! 17 minutes on YouTube, look up "Marketing to Doctors" under John Oliver. Memories of the Advair launch and Jim Daly in all of his purple glory, among many other things.
Let's hope our families don't see this one.

 

DC has nothing to do with it. Watch the 17 minute clip on YouTube, John Oliver "Marketing to Doctors"

 

Thanks DC

 

wining and dining is a huge part of a real sales job.. wake up !!!

 

Can we be honest here: many smart reps already HAVE another real job. For many, it's Mommy; they come in late, leave early, and take uncredited time off to run errands or go to the Pede. office. Others of us are smart in that we have this job, and then another on the side that helps pay into the college tuition fund and pay for the high end furniture .

And then there are those like me, that treat THIS job as the side job, working around 30 hours a week here, and a teeny bit more than that at our real job.

 

At least you don't take this serious. You save lives part time! Bully for you!

 

You probably stay at home and never actually work, so how is it embarrassing?

 

I was wishing he would have followed up that joke about the teenage boy with an anecdote from GSK China, or even a clip from that famous video that was sent to the CEO.

 

Yep. Its all there. So, how do those butt-munches that keep blaming the new regime on our ills feel now? That part with JD was mortifying. The rhythmically challenged foursome made be cringe (then and now). But busting us, Pfizer, Lilly, and AZ was classic.

How embarrassing. But guess what----potential employers already know this about us. Thats one reason its so hard to break out of here and land a job that pays anything close to our current salary.

We're in-person marketers, period.

 

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/

Nice, finally I can show my DM what $100K of payments by my competitor looks like against a few 'gourmet' deli sandwiches I've brought in (data just for 2013) ... i'll update my biz plan to add those big cookies along with the sandwiches and see if that can make a dent in market share.

 

I'm thinking what brought down JB was the 4 cents that GSK bribed that Doc with

 

This John Oliver pharma episode is finally up on YouTube if you have not had a chance to see it or want to see if you recognize any of the reps they interviewed, or see the Advair guy scream that reps in the room are going to make an ungodly sum of money selling Advair.
They show video evidence of a 2001 GSK sales meeting: Daryl Baker, Simon Jones, Rob Gots, and Ken Fiba.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQZ2UeOTO3I

 

Usually the weekend brings out the bottom feeder lawyers.

 

Speaking of bottom feeding is Brokeback mountain on HBO tonight? I getting an itch in my rump.

 

This is super funny!

 

I love JO. But he is hardly giving both sides of the argument.

Yes, these sorts of sales launches and are appalling and shameful. Every f’ing $ spent on strobe lights, dancers and pop star performances (Crestor had Sheryl Crow!) should instead be used to make meds more affordable. Meeting like that Advair meeting should end immediately. And, thankfully, they seem to be more scarce.

But while JO does a great job of criticizing the more outlandish aspects of direct-to-physician marketing he fails to describe the downside of docs being shut off from this timely and convenient way of receiving information about new medications.

If John O (or one of his children!) was diagnosed w/ a serious disease wouldn’t he expect his doctor to be aware of the very latest medications? Sadly, a great many are not. And the number is growing as more docs join large (no reps!) networks.

Doctors who meet with drug reps will always find out sooner about a new drug than a doc who is shut off and must wait for their network formulary to authorize prescribing it. And the potential lag time isn’t just weeks or months - it could be a year or more! Granted some of the “new” drugs aren’t all that better or even new. But some are!

Most docs are smart enough to think critically about what they are hearing during rep presentations. They know it’s a promotional presentation and they adjust their expectations accordingly.

But being completely unaware of a new med is hardly a better alternative.