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"Home Made Bread" or "Home Baked Bread"

Discussion in 'Vivus Pharmaceuticals' started by Anonymous, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM.

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  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    One one of these discussion threads, somebody made reference to "Home Made/Baked Bread", and several remarkers remarked that they had no idea what the original poster was saying...

    In the pharma world, "Home Made/Baked Bread" is an industry slang for salespieces and promotional items which are not company marketing department, let alone FDA, approved for use in the field with prescribing medical professionals to promote the sales of ethical drugs.

    In short, if you are a drug-rep who has been accused of using "homemade bread" you are being accused of distributing sales/promotional materials which you have 'cooked-up' on your own time, using your own resources, going outside the legally-bound marketing department and the FDA, and creating your own, individual sales-promotional items from your personal computer and printer and/or using clinical studies for promotion which have not been approved and disseminated by your company's marketing department.

    I've done it before, to VERY good effect and reward, with a completely lame and incompetent legal department at a pharma company which no longer exists. At that time and place the risk of termination proved to ABSOLUTELY be worth the danger. I won a company paid trip to a very desirable destination in the Far East which I would never be able to afford, otherwise.

    You need to weigh in your mind how badly you need your current job and if the risk of termination is worth it. I was kinda reckless, back in the day, and I got away with it, with substantial reward, but I would tend to caution you younger guys with families away from trying that path.

    The short-term gain in market share/TRX weighed against your livelihood and keeping your bills covered would tend to speak against using "Home Made Bread".
     

  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Is somebody doing this now? Who?

    how doesvivushandle this if it is seen
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest




    A "guy with a family" using his "home computer/printer" on his "own time"

    Wonder who that could be. Watch your back and don't piss off your coworkers. I, I mean, they might turn you in.
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    must be talking about the neighborhood Takeda rep.
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    We know which manger is pushing this ! She's famous for crossing the line in all areas of pharmaceuticals.
     
  6. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    either put up or shut up. Just because you lost your job, that doesn't mean you can spread crappy lies. You lost your job either because it was bad luck and unfortunately your number was pulled it, you aRe a lazy turd.
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I hope this poster actually is not employed with Vivus but it may explain why my options are worthless.
     
  8. anonymous

    anonymous Guest


    Which district
     
  9. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    keep an eye out for a couple senior reps getting fired soon. This should answer two of the questions above.

    1. You get fired if you do this
    2. Their location will be evident when you see them leave

    If you are someone or know someone who has done this, don't worry, action will be taken soon. This is being investigated thoroughly as we know it's going on in more locations than one.
     
  10. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    I guess she will have more time for her hot yoga!
     
  11. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

     
  12. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    You are full of it. Just upset because you lost your job. Don't throw others under the bus.
     
  13. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    Nope haven't lost job yet but sure am looking before this all goes bust. Funny how this is from rep and manager who live on the phone together worried and always reactive together in crime.
     
  14. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    What part of the country are we talking?
     
  15. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    Well it looks like it went bust !!! Damn I was hoping to eek out a few more months.
     
  16. anonymous

    anonymous Guest


    Which manager is this
     
  17. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    I think she's gone!