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Discussion in 'Horizon Pharma' started by anonymous, Dec 17, 2022 at 3:56 PM.
Just shut up with your guesses and opinions. You know as much as the rest of us
There are some valuable opinions. I just caught wind of this forum, but I have worked for both companies. Here are some differences.
car - no allowance. Company car. Max of $1800 a year cost. All depends on usage. You’ll get a rental when you star. No choice of temporary anything. Enterprise then fleet.
phone - no expense. Company phone.
401k - Amgen automatically gives you 5%. Then they match 5%.
insurance - more expensive at Amgen. Family cost is roughly $300 more a month.
espp - 5% versus 15%
Commission is capped.
salary caps at pay levels (1 through 3)
No whomever posted that is spot on. All correct for the most part. Not hyperbole
Great gym on the campus! The lunches are not subsided. I bought a salad from their salad bar (good one), and it was $22. The food is expensive.
Houses are expensive anywhere near the headquarters, but it's a great area. Many will leave Amgen. They won't be able to take the big Pharma culture, and the raises are awful and RSU's awful. They do not pay for performance here.
As someone else stated, they don't know rare disease so it will be a mess. They won't want to learn from your culture. They will stick to their culture and expect you to change.
Bob Bradway will tell you anything you want to hear by the way....just sayin...
Bob seemed pretty sincere when he said he was buying us for the people AND products- not just the products. He said he was excited to learn from us. I'm optimistic.
Yeah and the check is in the mail, etc., etc., Boy are you in for a rude awakening.
This is full of hyperbole
Does Amgen shut down the week of Christmas? Most docs don't want to see us during the holidays.
That isn't really true. I've had some great lunches and interactions the week before a holiday. Most reps take off- I work harder. I take off randomly in the summer when no one is paying attention.
Yes. You can also choose to work any of the days and trade them for future pto. I have a lunch on Wednesday, so I submitted that I am working that day and am given a float.
LOL. They certainly ARE in for a rude awakening. Bob will tell them all they want to hear.
We we shut down between Christmas and New Years, and you get 4th of July week off. You WILL pay more for your health insurance--far more than most Pharma. The insurance isn't great and is expensive. Dental plan is on par with others.
401 K good 10% match
Product launches are a disaster. And they don't pay reps to relocate. Housing prices near Thousand Oaks are ridiculously high and you won't get a COLA.
Cars are nice and you just pay for mileage. IT comes out of the credit card you give on file. Trackers in the cars though so they can get rid of you easily. You won't work as hard at Amgen as I'm sure you do at Horizon, but your RSU's are a joke here.
Personal days some managers watch super closely and will say little things and others don't care too much. You will be on lots and lots of conference calls.
If you launch a drug here, watch out. They mess up every single product launch. Co Promotes are usually a MESS.
How is it working for Marketing's Susan Sweeney? Does she/he allow her managers sufficient freedom to do their jobs?
Good luck if you are male!
Amgen doesn't need our Marketing department! Predict nobody in Marketing will be offered a job at Amgen. Best to start exploring opportunities at Abbvie, Abbott, Baxter, Astellas. We should be alright in Sales for at least a year and then who knows.
I don't know why you think that. We have some of the most talented individuals in all of pharma which get attracted here because of high pay. Amgen has some of the worst marketing people as evident by failed launch after launch.
I suspect many of our team will be offered positions.
"Which get attracted"? "As evident by"? You are ignorant of the functions and scope of marketing, but thanks for your idiotic conjecture and improper grammar.
I have no doubt that we have some very talented people. That being said, the team is not the end all, be all. Whoever keeps pushing these webcasts with the same speakers just makes our jobs harder. They don’t drive business and we have to beg people to listen just to check a box. Our iVAs are OK. I’ve seen better and worse. Whoever is in charge of the large conferences is awesome, for sure. Twitter is becoming a huge platform for doctors, especially nephrologists. Very, very poor use of that platform. Most electronic or paper advertising to the public or even to doctors does not make much impact, with the exception of the Tepezza commercial - that’s good stuff right there. ANY of the ridiculous segmentation that any marketing team comes up with is a joke, especially for rare disease. There could not be a greater waste of money right there.
Clearly Amgen will need people to work on each product, so I’m sure that if people in our marketing department want to move (and at their own expense), then there will be opportunity. It would be silly for Amgen to not offer it. Some people on here don’t seem to grasp that whatever people are doing in their jobs right now at Amgen have been deemed the proper amount of work for each role for the most part. They aren’t going to give their reps 2 specialty products to sell, especially with rare disease. They aren’t going to just throw 4 products onto the existing marketing teams. That being said, Amgen might not think that they need as many people as we have. The field should definitely worry about that given the recent expansion on the OBU & GBU. They will likely do their own analysis of targeting, frequency, etc. The GBU is one of the weirdest setups I have ever seen with one team only calling on one specialty & the other one calling on all others…all for the same indication. Then there’s the whole random referral rep situation. Plenty of support jobs & HQ jobs will be redundant, too.
At the end of the day, we are all expendable and easily replaced, so don’t bank on your talent to help you out.