Implant Direct.Com is this a joke?

Does that mean that if I have a killer year selling 30000 implants and the next year, I have the same killer year and even increase by a few implants, my salary would go down to 47,500.37?

 

Hey Jerry, companies DO pay commission from dollar one, not all, but some do. Why don't you learn about what REAL companies pay before you start popping off? That is the worst model to pay someone. So if I have a territory that made 1,000,000 the prior year and next year I do 1.1 Million, I make 6 grand in commission for the year at 10% growth? I think part time managers at Subway make more! No thanks douche bag!!!

 

cool

 

The prior post was not Niznick...Implant Direct has a higher starting base and no signing bonus. Do the math.... if you had a 1,000,000 territory, you would have made $50,000 in commissions over your salary and the next year you would give yourself another raise to $55,000. Other companies would just reset your quota and keep your base where it was.

 

This is true for some of the reps. Not every rep is on the same plan. Some only get commission on growth while others get paid from dollar 1. Nizdick is very good at saving a buck! Cheap bastard! Funny thing is that he will step over $100 to pick up a penny!

 

I was a Zimmer customer and still occasionally. I also use 3-i implants. After a while, and after careful consideration, I decided to finally use Implant Direct implants, and after extensive questions both to reps and to Dr. Niznick himself. Nothing is ever perfect, but the fact is that he designed the original Zimmer implants and when he started Implant Direct, made improvements to this type implant and came up with other knock offs of other companies. I haven't had any significant problems, the support staff on the phone is EXTREMELY knowledgable, and here's the real deal answer to your obnoxious threads. I am trying to keep the cost of implant dentistry within the reach of average people here. I charge $1500 and sometimes a little less for surgery. I am an oral surgeon: this is 2012 now. I see that others charge $1600, $1800, $2000 and up. If I use an Implant Direct implant on 40% of my cases, I do fine as far as revenues and profits and I'm not worried about making an extra buck. I will be keeping the price down for as long as possible. This is now 2012 and 3-i, Zimmer and the rest of them are selling implants for $350-over $400 per implant. So yes, with my lower fee and the lower cost of an implant that is a quality implant (Legacy series), it IS a great service to patients. You all are bitter. If I start having massive failures, then yes I would be concerned. I actually had failures with another system, not Implant Direct. Just my opinion.

 

This makes perfect sense to me. You want to be the "least expensive" provider of dental implants in your market and I want to sell them to you. I want to spend a few days working with you too, so I can find out who refers to you. Then, Im going to go tell them how easy it is to place implants and inform them that they dont need you or support. Next I'll go sell ID abutments to all the labs so they use them on implant cases for all the systems we've copied that way absolutely no one will help any of your referring doctors when screws break or implants fail. Well, thats not true, you'll have to help them. Oh yes, after these few weeks, Im gonna turn you over to customer service and never come back.

Youre a crown. If I had to guess, your referrals have no idea they arent getting Zimmer or whatever else youre slapping in. I'll even bet it says Zimmer on the uncovery letter too. You better not let your rep find that out or you'll be bending over for years. FDA....I'm sure that would be fun for you too when they find out youre lying about a medical device. So cheap = value......fine business model you have. Let me let you in on a little secret, as a patient I want your best. I want the best product, the best technique provided by the best surgeon. I want the best you have. I want to know (if we are talking about Zimmer) the product is backed by the largest Ortho company in the world. If Nobel, by the largest provider of implants in the world. I dont want to go to the OMS that the cheapest in the market because technology cost money. It is obvious what you value.

 

Really, "doctor"? In the middle of your business day you took time to write this rant? You need a consultant. You're an idiot.

 

"I am an oral surgeon: this is 2012 now."

Hmm. I think not.

What a POS business this is, full of dim bulbs and douchebags on every level.

 

This was from an Oral Surgeon. If you think this is an isolated case of a specialist realizing that Implant Direct is selling high quality, innovative products with good customer service at a fair price, think again. Implant Direct's major shareholder, Danaher, also owns Kavo, Image Sciences, Kerr, Sybron, Pelton Crane and many other well known and respected dental brands. Nobel and Straumann are stand alone implant companies who have seen the value of their shares drop dramatically along with their business. Their stocks were down again today in an up market. Implant Direct, under Dr. Niznick's directions has in just 6 years created a new segment of the implant market between Premium priced companies and discounters, called the Value Segment. Because of its continued growth and profitability, Implant Direct continues to expand its education and product development. It will launch custom milled titanium and zirconia abutments as well as Cad Milled titanium bars the first quarter of 2013 at prices and quality the will change that part of the industry also. What started out as an internet only company in late 2006, now has 70 outside sales people in the US and 40 customer service people.....and they did it without raising prices in 6 years? Straumann, selling overpriced, outdated products just announced another 3.5% price increase the first of the year, and a few months ago, spent $300M buying 49% of a Brazillian impant company selling $60 external hex implants. All this does not go unnoticed by savey business people including Periodontists and Oral Surgeons seeing their implant referrals dwindling as more and more GPs and dental chains offer implants.

 

"Implant Direct continues to expand its education and product development."
I believe what you meant to say was COPY. There's not one thing in ole Shiznicks portfolio that's his other than TSV. Everything else he copied from other companies. Name 1 thing he has done that wasnt taken from other systems excluding the "low ball" inovation youre calling Value.
"and they did it without raising prices in 6 years?"
This makes sense because he's an idiot. You see the price of EVERYTHING goes up yearly meaning he was a lot more profitable 6 years ago. Now adding you clowns to the payroll, hell he's losing money.
"spent $300M buying 49% of a Brazillian impant company selling $60 external hex implants."
See now, here's where youre an idiot (other than posting this nonsense on here). That's the fastest growing implant market on the planet. Everyone is buying a company there to get around the import taxes the country slaps on implants not made in Brazill. They also sell a $100 implant; sound like anyone we know? You'd think you would know something like that before making this argument. Again, idiot.
"All this does not go unnoticed by savey business people including Periodontists and Oral Surgeons seeing their implant referrals dwindling as more and more GPs and dental chains offer implants."[/QUOTE]
Now here's where you lost me. Are you calling the Perio's and OMS (like the one you say posted earlier) savey business people?? The same one's that you taking money from by teaching their referrals to place implants?? Does he not know youre doing that or just not care? You ARE an idiot. You are the reason this is happening dipshit! Oh, they are taking notice BTW.
If it bothers you so bad to work for ID quit. Go do something else or start calling things straight. Youre a low (sorry - value) cost cloan implant company that even copies training and education models of other companies. Look Jr, its ok. We all have our place and its time to stop living in la la land. There is a reason Danaher bought you along with AI and lumped you two together. There's a market for cheap implants and parts. Please get educated, informed and trained before you pop off again moron.

 

Funny post above!

 

I think that you should do your homework and learn who paid Dr. Niznick for the use of his patents. You must be new to the implant business because someone with knowledge and experience would know the facts about his patents who has paid him to use them for their implants.

 

Please do us a favor and be more vague.

 

Just in case anyone is wondering, the comp plan for 2013 is a joke. Gets worse every year.

 

Yes, we get it. He's in the top 3 in pioneers for the dental implant market.

Truth is, that was back in the 90's. Here's what was going on then:

* MC Hammer had a hit, then tried to go legit, and became bankrupt.
* Color Me Badd was actually popular
* I owned black patented leather shoes with fine imported italian rayon shirts.
* The Ford Escort was the best selling economy family car.
* Bush was President.

So I pose to you, with all the innovations that has taken place since the 90's in implant dentistry, what has he done lately other than preach that there's no need for innovation?

I mean seriously, get over it already. I'm sure the guy who invented the first cell phone figured that it couldn't get any better than that at the time, right?

 

Now here's where you lost me. Are you calling the Perio's and OMS (like the one you say posted earlier) savey business people?? The same one's that you taking money from by teaching their referrals to place implants?? Does he not know youre doing that or just not care? You ARE an idiot. You are the reason this is happening dipshit! Oh, they are taking notice BTW.
If it bothers you so bad to work for ID quit. Go do something else or start calling things straight. Youre a low (sorry - value) cost cloan implant company that even copies training and education models of other companies. Look Jr, its ok. We all have our place and its time to stop living in la la land. There is a reason Danaher bought you along with AI and lumped you two together. There's a market for cheap implants and parts. Please get educated, informed and trained before you pop off again moron.[/QUOTE]

Great post!!! ID douche bags, why have you not responded to this????? Whoever posted this, I salute you!

 

Implant Direct's crap is coming to light....wait til all the customers/patients find out doctors have charged them for regular abutments and what they got was a temp abutment only designed to hold up for a brief period of time (from uncovering til final crown made at lab). If I had one of these (temps) in my mouth and paid full-boat price, I'd be looking for a smart attorney.

 

"If I had one of these (temps) in my mouth and paid full-boat price, I'd be looking for a smart attorney."

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Then What Would You Do ?

 

I would get the number of your attorney and see if he wants to do a class action suit!