New Pronto 7 Hemoglobin/ Masimo

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  1. Anonymous

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    Masimo is currently in litigation with hemocue on this particular product due to alleged false claims on their accuracy. Had an interview with their regional manager, Mike Smits. A phone interview that turned into a non stop infomercial on the Pronto, could not get a word in on any relevant experience I had or what I had to bring to the table. D not want a manager that sees everything as a one way street any only sees things through his eyes which leads to another micro manager that probably came from so far up in Minnesota that he is not in touch with reality. Good luck with this one!!
     
  2. Anonymous

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    I have a final interview tomorrow with the d manager and avp. Manager is very forthcoming with the shortcoming and what is coming down the pipeline and why rainbow was pulled and the differences in results it can get. Very laid back to me, haven't heard a word about litigation with hecacue except that you still have to draw blood for that. As from a long career of nursing I do know that Hg can vary from one extremity to the next as well as venous and arterial and site of puncture so I can very well see that there would be varies non-invasivally. I think it has potential, not everywhere, but some use in some offices.
     
  3. Anonymous

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    The following reply was posted by a Masimo manager... So obvious!!!... This is the typical corporate lie they push on employees, doctors & anyone who will listen. The sales devision referenced in bogus quote below is being sued by an army of x-employees who stopped buying all the lies. Sit back and enjoy the show folks...

     
  4. Anonymous

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    If you know anything at all about Hb, you know it doesn't fluctuate much within an hour, regardless of appendage tested, body position, etc. Unless perhaps the patient has recently been shot at close range with hollow-point bullets. But Masimo explains away their hair-brain Pronto device inaccuracies by lying about that. Defying all laws of science, logic and ethics, Masimo management trains its salespeople to fool potential customers (or "victims" if you will) into believing that a patient's Hb routinely fluctuates by 6-8 g/dl throughout the day, even if the patient hasn't been shot in the face.
     
  5. Anonymous

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    All Masimo sales people know the product is BS, thats why they are ALL leaving. Only about 10 have been sold YTD despite what Joe says on quarterly calls. I am really surprised the investors havent called him out yet on his lies. He talks about quotes and units shipped instead of sales. Everyone here know these Pronto 7 are not selling, maybe they are going to hospitals....they sure as hell arent going into physician offices
     
  6. Anonymous

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    this device looks pretty bogus to me but it has been sold down the throats of the surg unit i oversee. i am the poct manager and the precision against hemocue even with operator technique thrown in was as much as 5 mg/dL!! the values were on either side of the board-not consistently higher or consistently lower-this bloodless device is worthless to patient care. perhaps the reimbursement schedule is the driving force. lab vs hemocue with 95% of the draws compared a difference of 0.5-1.0 much more reliable. i think using the pronto will either cause more blood draws or neglect patients who need care with critically low hgb.
     
  7. #22 Anonymous, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:31 AM
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    Anonymous

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    It is very bogus, reps know it doesnt work and we aren't selling it anymore. They are hiring a fresh group to sell it. The new people will figure it out quickly and start looking for a new job too. The slim balls who are willing to sell it will fit right into the Masimo slim bucket. Pronto 7 has already been taken off the market once, I don't know how it got back. Joe and his politicians. He has every democrat on the west coast in his back pocket. Masimo is very very unethical. Their motto is "do what's best for patient care" but that is Iranian for "make Joe rich at any cost". Hb does not work, it is a good parlor trick but it causes more problems for the patient than it solves. It confuses the issue and you cannot rely on the result. I have seen it miss by several grams and trend in the wrong direction during surgery. Very unsafe for the patient and no reputable doctor will use it, I don't know of one that will use it regularly. Many have tried it and come to the same conclusion, I have seen it in person. If you care about patients you won't sell this product, everyone knows it doesn't work. The FDA is going to have egg on their face when this all goes down, if hospitals were using it there would be lawsuits but thankfully no one is using it. There is not a single hospital in the country that uses it when the rep is not standing there. All hemoglobin sales that are reported are from capital acquisition or stocking orders, absolutely no regular users anywhere. Sales people are waiting Joe out, he is going bananas trying to figure out how to sell it, it has never occurred to him it is the wrong thing to do, he is only thinking of himself and profits.
     

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