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Pristique not unique

Discussion in 'Wyeth' started by Anonymous, Jan 13, 2007 at 11:25 AM.

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  1. Anonymous

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    Cymbalta has no coverage as well and grew. If you docs complain about coverage and write Cymbalta, then they are just giving you BS. How can you complain about something you know nothing about?
     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    No study exists showing any anti-depressant including Pristiq works any better than a placebo for reducing hot flashes, which are subjective anyway and only last a few minutes long at worst. That is a heavy price to pay to take a heavy duty drug 24/7 for a few minutes of daily relief that a sugar pill also provides.

    FDA is crazy (or bought) if they allow this unproven drug travesty on the market.
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Having gone through menapause and experiencing pretty severe hot flashes- I agree it is crazy to take an antidepressant- Black Cohosh and Soy really work. The hot flashes do go away. It amazes me that we thing pharmaceuticals should solve everything. The longer I have been a pharma rep- the more I think that natural remedies should be tried first.
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Tell you what quit pharmaceuticals and go work for a company that sells Black Cohosh and Soy. There's a lot of double-blind randomized trials confirming their efficacy. While you're at it, hug a tree, and chant, that helps your hot flashes, too.
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    So we know that some dr's have been using Effexor XR for hot flashes for years with some good results. Not every patient, but good results.

    So why does the dr want to write this new drug Pristiq when they will be able to get a generic (or almost identical generic) for a cheaper for the patient??

    Sincere question.
     
  6. Anonymous

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    In today's overly litigious society, it's safer for them to write a drug approved by the FDA for the disorder rather than writing it off label, for starters.

    There are very few identical generics. Only if the original manufacturer makes them are they identical and as pure, effective and safe.

    Psychological reasons. Many people are about brands rather than copycats. If you are willing to pay extra, so be it. God bless America and the right to choose!!!
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I will sell pristique the best I can. I am still learning about it and am not really impressed with it. Maybe I will see a study that will change my mind. It looks like its side effect profile is pretty lengthy. I hope I misread because I really want it to do well for all of us that were retained.
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    As someone who is close to the Medical Affair, I hate to burst your bubble. Pristiq is not a good drug by any standard. We tried to get 100mg approved as the standard dose. But our patients got so sick that they could care less about the efficacy. They just couldn't tolerate the drug long enough to see any improvement. We were then forced to compromise the efficacy and tested the 50mg and hoped for the best. As far as we know, 50mg is about as effective as 100mg XR with no additional safety or novel features. So if you want to convert your current XR patients to Pristiq, you may not want those who are on 150mg XR and higher or your customers will be very disappointed. As an extension, we consider it as a failure. Our company may not want us know about this or to think this way as we can expect. We can only rely on marketing now for any hope as there is nothing else we can do on this end. Pharmacologically, we are very disappointed and it is certainly an inferior product.
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    All the Hitachis in the world can't give her an Effexor orgasm'.
     
  10. Anonymous

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    I would believe you if I didn't know any better. The drug is very well tolerated and it is very effective. Just wait and see. They said the same shit about Lexapro.

    Shit, if an absolute piece of shit dirty dirty dirty high side effect drug that took 10 years to get approved, CYMBALTA, is making a billion$$$, just watch how Pristiq kicks ass.

    Tell the docs to try it and judge for themselves. We all know the studies are practically useless in the docs' eyes. People, just have faith on this one.
     
  11. Anonymous

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    You'd better hope that Pristiq does a billion or there will be another round of layoffs mid-year I'd say in order to get to the 10% total company cut figure that was announced. I do NOT believe Pristiq will do well. Too much competition now and too much similarity to Effexor. Psych patients are on multiple drugs and will look to save a buck with generic effex. Sorry, this pigs ready for the barbeque.
     
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    You will owe me a BBQ dinner. I'm no "kool aid" drinker either. Bring beer too. It'll wash down those words you're gonna be eating. I'll supply you the Pristiq samples for your new found depression.

    The reason is that the prelim reports are that it's doing very very well in early patients.

    ummm....wasn't Lexapro too similar to Celexa? You are not in sales, my boy. Just leave it up to us pros. Your paycheck has always relied on us and we rarely ever let you down, and you know it. Just sit back and relax.
     
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Plus, you don't have the big bucks that we're going to spend greasing the pockets of all the local psych docs. They respond to payouts with scripts. Those who write, get more and more bucks. It's simple really. The docs don't care if works, they only care how much Wyeth pays them to write.
     
  14. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Those patients doing so well are with doctors bought and paid for by Wyeth, who are you kidding. Do you really expect them to be honest and be cut out of being a speaker.
     
  15. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Read all about the Pristiq hot flash study done in Oregon on PubMed. HUGE dropout rate rendering any results meaningless. The product is one more cruel joke on women. Wyeth hates women and sees them only as exploitable cash cows. Really awful.

    Stress reduction is key in controlling hot flashes. Drugging women into chemical hazes as a substitute for life and attitude changes is reprehensible. Deep breathing controls hot flashes just as much as any harmful, side effect riddled drug.

    Women - don't let Wyeth do this to you .......... again!