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Discussion in 'Ethicon Device' started by Doc House, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:03 PM.
What does ethicon do about signia and tristaple and the Chinese copycats?
They do this: Comparative Effectiveness Assessment of Two Powered Surgical Stapling | MDER
Same damn study they did 4-5 years ago. Same database.
Can't improve the product?? Massage the data.
when was the last time anything meaningful came out? They cage the color of the handle or fix something that should have been done right to begin with and they call that development and a launch
Figure it out people, Ethicon is being bled out to pay for the robot and anyone that stays will be IQVIA selling skin staplers. Pharma doesn’t want you, Auris doesn’t want Ethicon reps.
This is not a case of the ship is taking on water, it’s a dead company and it will pay for other companies to start and then will be dismantled.
You are Wal-Mart of health care and anyone can say that’s down isle 16.
If you stay there than you get what you deserve
Yes message the data..
Engineers can’t listen to the customer when they ask for powered or even an articulation knob.
Covidien can take them down the path of 2 reloads (purple or Tan) while Ethicon has to make it complex.
One bleeds and one doesn’t
When 4th to market with buttressing why not be the most expensive..... but at least it will cover up all the blood from your oozing staple line.
We can't seem to win stapling business from MDT. Such a frustrating situation. The only portfolio we can win is suture, but there is only so much suture you can sell.
We need another differentiated product in EM.
powered circular, duh. THE game changer.
Has is really changed your game?
Covidien has better staplers. It is really that simple. Ethicon has what, 60-65% stapler marketshare? thats with holding suture over every hospital's head, they can only get to 60+%
So if the stapler had to stand on its own with no hit to suture pricing, what would the marketshare be?
Their powered is pretty garbage, but the simple fact of the lack of an articulation knob with Ethicon's is a joke. It has been made clear that surgeons want/need the articulation. Just make one.
surgeons have been asking for that knob for 10+ years
But Ethicon knows what a surgeon needs better that a surgeon. At least that is what they tell us
You're asking a company to incorporate an articulation knob, which it has done on previous staplers, onto an existing stapler??!! You realize this is the same company that took YEARS to launch a lap applicator for Powder? A freaking flexible tube. And you think they can engineer something on a stapler inside of a decade?? HA HA HA HA!! That is rich.
Let's not forget Super Jaw aka Super Flaw. As soon as we saw that device prior to launch during rep training, we knew it was a complete bust. Only took seven or eight years to get a replacement.