The End

Thanks....I calling in the AM.

 

You are calling in the Art McGray? That cat is on to much better gigs my friend! Might as well call in the PR. But Patti Rohman is on to bigger and better things too. Hmm. One a guy, one a girl. Both successful academics. Both hard workers. Both older. Both had their lives made miserable by their leaders. Both older, higher paid academics. Hmm.

 

I know them both and they're great people, unlike the jerks who helped run them out. There's a great karma to that story though. Patti is thriving at her new gig, and Art makes more money now as a model and actor than he did here. As for the management that decided that these two were "too old" to do the job, one's gone, another has an "old person's" disease, and a couple more are now stuck in the mud of being a lifelong DM, which most people would consider a living Hell.
It's so nice to see how things work out in the end. Call you in the AM! LOL

 

Yes, karma is great. The witch dm I worked for quit and now months later is still looking for a job because she is such a nightmare and no one will touch her. But of course this dopey company hired her (disaster).

 

I love this kind of karma: A lot of the witches that hated my friend and tried to make life miserable for him are now so jealous that his good looks are making a great new career for them, while they just get more and more worn and wrinkled by the stress of this job and their horrible blah husbands. Yes, karma is great!

 

Thanks for the update Art!

 

The only legacy coming from this Company is one of abuse to at sales. Specifically the sales organization is constantly treated like a whipping post. With senior leadership consistently pointing the finger for every failure at sales. The last place you want to work is at Johnson & Johnson sales. The good news is they replaced all of the people that knew what they were doing with complete morons. That should ensure the organizations to miser the near future. Karma is a bitch.

 

You're welcome! I'm doing great, but I hear that the haters are as miserable as ever. See you from your TV!

 

AM=Art McGray. Very clever and I think it's very telling that I could list at least 50 top reps that JBI has run off along with a few really good managers most of whom were older and paid more.

 

I loved working with AM and was sad to see him go. There are so many terrible reps in our region and it seems like anybody that was good was run off. Some of these people couldn't sell ice in hell. And that's what we have at JBI now.

 

Sorry Art, not many of us will be watching your gay porn flicks

 

I don't think Art would have any interest in this site. He's long gone. Let him go. I bet you're one of those types that posts as if they are someone else and then answers himself. It's kind of pathetic actually. Why are you obsessed with someone who had the courage to move on?

 

Please, let's drop the conversation about AM. Don't you northeast people have anything better to do? This is supposed to be about the horror of our jobs here, so stick to the issues. That's the problem with JBI: They get us infighting and seeing each other as the enemy, when management is the real enemy. They got rid of AM and they'll get rid of the rest of us. Stop thinking you're safe as long as you go after ghosts. We need to figure something out here.

 

It's not going to matter for much more, anyway. Marti and senior management already has targeted many reps for downsizing. The managers are told to be nice to the reps while they are compiling dirt on them. Soon there won't be any bald guys or wrinkled women to go around. They'll all be gone, and finding jobs will be tough.
Hmm, maybe working in porn wouldn't be a bad gig. Nah, we're all too old.

 

The only number higher then the multitude of older quality reps run off is the dollars JNJ will be paying out in lawsuits for these highly targeted dismissals. I personally know of over 20 cases filed and over two dozen waiting to become active upon dismissal. So all I can say to the JBI management is "pleazzze pull that trigger". My payout won't start to multiply until then. BTW my case is going to make Art's look like spare change. So don't fear the discrimination if it were to come your way. It is your calling to get your mega payday.

 

Alumni here. When did Art leave and who took him out? I'm going to guess it was somebody that disliked happy, productive, loyal, older, white males. Seriously, who took him out?

 

Art left around the end of last year but he actually wasn't run out. From everything I've heard, he was used as a witness in an outside investigation of JBI selling practices in the northeast. We had a conference call where we were informed of this and we were told that there was a "protected" rep who was cooperating with the investigators, and people said it was Art because he was refusing to participate in some shady things that were going on throughout the region. We were told by management not to contact him and we were told that if anyone tried to intimidate or coerce "the witness" we would be terminated. Later I heard that Art left with a nice severance, and then we started noticing people vanishing or being reassigned. I heard some reps got reprimanded and lost P clubs and bonuses as punishment. I guess the moral of the story is to just do this job with integrity and you'll end up with a severance or settlement instead of an ax hanging over your head.

 

That doesn't sound like being run off. In baseball, it's called a walk-off. In this case maybe a walk-off grand slam. Good for AM, and too bad for the crooks.

 

As one manager state to me,"I haven't met one older white male working here that I would hire". The next layoff will finish off what they want to accomplish. BTW this post is 100 true and layoffs are scheduled for Nov-Dec this year. Personnel is already been looked at. All older white dudes not in management are gone except 7 in immunology. I saw the list myself. The older managers ranks are thinned as well.

 

It doesn't sound to me like they're waiting until December. What happened to JG in Seattle? The guy had something like 10 presidents cops. Suddenly he's gone and replace buy one of those women in leadership candidates. Just another example of old white dude out.