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<p>[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 4467930"]Lie #1: "In all reality, I can say with 100% certainty, that no one in the entire organization uses that call." Absolute B.S. because you haven't been on sales calls with every rep in your company.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lie #2: "The actions of a few employees do not define a company." Sure they do - those actions set the tone for the culture of the company, especially a sales organization."</p><p><br /></p><p>Lie #3: "You may not like the "video game" as the editorialist put it, but what is Sanofi doing to educate young people about the misconceptions associated with insulin therapy?" Sanofi does a lot in this area - corporate/marketing support of Diabetes Camps with specific resources allocated to support camps across the nation. Locally, Sanofi does a lot to support camps and other activities to educate kids. You obviously haven't heard of Team Type 1, our corporate sponsored cycling team of diabetic cyclists that rides in ADA Tour de Cure events across the country. Every one of those events includes visits with kids to inspire them on treating their diabetes and living life to one's full potential. Each summer, I participate in a local support group event for kids with diabetes - Novo is NEVER there.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lie #4: "Did we threaten to pull out of Greece--of course we did. And Sanofi thanked us for it afterwards--" Sanofi NEVER thanked Novo - show me the press release. A great leader would have negotiated a reasonable agreement to continue providing insulin while dealing with a government and country on the brink of collapse. Novo could have easily treated each country individually. Making a deal with one country doesn't mean you have to make the same deal with other countries. Germany wouldn't need a price break like Greece.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lie #5: "I could look at your company's actions around Multaq and Accomplia and say all sorts nasty things, couldn't I?" You don't have to say anything, you are nasty by default because you're arrogant. Accomplia was simply a product that didn't get approved. Sanofi was very ethical because we could have figured out a way to make the clinical trials produce favorable adverse event outcomes by changing the psychological patient survey measures. Sanofi didn't do that because there was a risk to patients - our company took a pass on continuing to try to bring that product to market. Multaq? Every post-marketing adverse event was monitored and reported to the FDA. Label was changed working with the FDA in every instance. Look at the Sanofi board on CP when anything changed with Multaq. Every rep that posted comments talked about staying true to their customers and acting with integrity no matter what the cost in sales.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not loyal to Sanofi - I choose to work where I work. I can say that Sanofi has always treated me very well. I'm fortunate to have had great managers - very proud to have worked for every one of them. None perfect, but all great people that looked out for my interests and theirs to the best of their ability.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sure, Sanofi has down sized and laid off reps over the past 5 years. There was a time when Sanofi's growth and financial performance looked the same as Novo if not better. Sanofi bought Aventis when it was outperforming most pharmaceutical companies. Sanofi had blockbuster after blockbuster product. The only reason Sanofi down sized because patents on those products expired. In an ideal, perfect world we would have had enough products to prevent that from happening.</p><p><br /></p><p>Go ahead, keep bragging about the perfection of Novo. If you were so confident and satisfied with your company you wouldn't find the need to continue boasting. If you were truly happy you would simply go about your business without the need to grand stand.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pfizer was once the greatest and could say all the things you're saying about Novo. Lilly was once the leader in the diabetes market. Keep on believing that you're immune from anything bad ever happening. Good for your arrogant ass if Novo gives you a lifetime of employment. I would never wish any company to have bad times and lay off employees.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 4467930"]Lie #1: "In all reality, I can say with 100% certainty, that no one in the entire organization uses that call." Absolute B.S. because you haven't been on sales calls with every rep in your company. Lie #2: "The actions of a few employees do not define a company." Sure they do - those actions set the tone for the culture of the company, especially a sales organization." Lie #3: "You may not like the "video game" as the editorialist put it, but what is Sanofi doing to educate young people about the misconceptions associated with insulin therapy?" Sanofi does a lot in this area - corporate/marketing support of Diabetes Camps with specific resources allocated to support camps across the nation. Locally, Sanofi does a lot to support camps and other activities to educate kids. You obviously haven't heard of Team Type 1, our corporate sponsored cycling team of diabetic cyclists that rides in ADA Tour de Cure events across the country. Every one of those events includes visits with kids to inspire them on treating their diabetes and living life to one's full potential. Each summer, I participate in a local support group event for kids with diabetes - Novo is NEVER there. Lie #4: "Did we threaten to pull out of Greece--of course we did. And Sanofi thanked us for it afterwards--" Sanofi NEVER thanked Novo - show me the press release. A great leader would have negotiated a reasonable agreement to continue providing insulin while dealing with a government and country on the brink of collapse. Novo could have easily treated each country individually. Making a deal with one country doesn't mean you have to make the same deal with other countries. Germany wouldn't need a price break like Greece. Lie #5: "I could look at your company's actions around Multaq and Accomplia and say all sorts nasty things, couldn't I?" You don't have to say anything, you are nasty by default because you're arrogant. Accomplia was simply a product that didn't get approved. Sanofi was very ethical because we could have figured out a way to make the clinical trials produce favorable adverse event outcomes by changing the psychological patient survey measures. Sanofi didn't do that because there was a risk to patients - our company took a pass on continuing to try to bring that product to market. Multaq? Every post-marketing adverse event was monitored and reported to the FDA. Label was changed working with the FDA in every instance. Look at the Sanofi board on CP when anything changed with Multaq. Every rep that posted comments talked about staying true to their customers and acting with integrity no matter what the cost in sales. I'm not loyal to Sanofi - I choose to work where I work. I can say that Sanofi has always treated me very well. I'm fortunate to have had great managers - very proud to have worked for every one of them. None perfect, but all great people that looked out for my interests and theirs to the best of their ability. Sure, Sanofi has down sized and laid off reps over the past 5 years. There was a time when Sanofi's growth and financial performance looked the same as Novo if not better. Sanofi bought Aventis when it was outperforming most pharmaceutical companies. Sanofi had blockbuster after blockbuster product. The only reason Sanofi down sized because patents on those products expired. In an ideal, perfect world we would have had enough products to prevent that from happening. Go ahead, keep bragging about the perfection of Novo. If you were so confident and satisfied with your company you wouldn't find the need to continue boasting. If you were truly happy you would simply go about your business without the need to grand stand. Pfizer was once the greatest and could say all the things you're saying about Novo. Lilly was once the leader in the diabetes market. Keep on believing that you're immune from anything bad ever happening. Good for your arrogant ass if Novo gives you a lifetime of employment. I would never wish any company to have bad times and lay off employees.[/QUOTE]
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