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VeevaSystems vs. CegedimDendrite

Discussion in 'Dendrite' started by Thierry, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:37 AM.

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  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Ooops! There is no Veeva board...hehehehe...and they can't "partner" with salesforce.com to use theirs - cause they don't have one either!!!!
     

  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Long time reader - 1st time poster here.

    Here is my question for the CegedimDendrite defender;

    If Veeva's business model is so wrong, then why are they kicking your a55 all over the Pharma industry?
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Oracle maybe...Cegedim, I don't think so! Go check your facts...
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest


    There's a difference between defending CD and ragging on Veeva, the "hum6le" company.
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

  6. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Sounds good. Does it work?
    I work for anofi Aventis and we are having a TERRIBLE time with alignining the correct customers into our diabetes territories.
    Can this Veeva company make this an easier process for us? We are DYIN out here!
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    @SaaV Employee -

    No, Veeva is a CRM or SFA platform. With this it is a garbage in, garbage out situation. If your data is not going into a CRM in good shape it will not come out in good shape.

    You need to do a territory targeting & alignment project - look to ZS, MarketRx, AdvantageMS or maybe HMS (if you don't read their board here ;).

    It is a combination of data cleanup (USPS scrub, general cleanse and de-dupe), targeting and alignment.
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    ...but that unemployed mid-level mngr DOES know what a second mortgage at the beach feels like

    that boastful 7uck. theres too many like him out there.
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Who cares?

    Cegedim Dendrite and Veeva are wayyyy too expensive for what they really offer us in the industry.
     
  10. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    REALLY!!! They -after all these years- are still JUST selling software seat licenses.

    We are FOOLD for buyin it.
     
  11. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I ALMOST am not bothered by their expensive upfront costs because it's something which we agree to. It's the absurd and recurring hidden costs of their systems and lackluster support which is frustrating to me.
     
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Dendrite Sucks either way
     
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    And Veeva too.
     
  14. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    You are both probably cegedim or Veeva sales pukes. Just shut up already. We know how invaluable you have become at your rolls royce pricing. You dont get it
     
  15. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Wrong. But for you that's probably the norm. Go back to your cube and try to figure out why pharma is failing.
     
  16. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Yep. That was a sales kinda answer!

    Go create something on your own, sales puke.
     
  17. Amen brother-I got tired of payin for all those imports i'd see in their parking lot everytime i had a come to jesus meeting at their hq. Their main saas competitor is not any better. theyll soak you with servicing pricing

    Enough is enough
     
  18. Nogel

    Nogel Guest

    You're tired of paying for all of cegemim's import cars in their parking lot??
    Hell, I'M tired of paying for all of their acqusitions!

    It's funny how some of their sales pukes leave cegedimDendrite to create some new company with a perceived unique offering whilst creating a partner strategy with cegedimDendite which is strategically setup to be an acqusition; TargetSFA, SAI, Knowledgent, Skila, Optimizer, OpenQ..all just incremental little offerings which cegedim desperately pays dearly for in an acqusition (passsing that cost onto us customers). I'm not that foolish anymore. This organisation is just a washed up, bloated non innovator.
     
  19. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Is this a joke?

    http://www.pharmafaceoff.com/episodes/co-pay-cards/clips/can-the-ipad-save-sales/play/

    Is CD THAT out of touch with what we (your customers) face to think that a DEVICE in the hands of our sales teams would 'Save Pharma' ?? Really? REEEEALLY?

    The guy who WAS in charge of CD innovation faced-off against the guy is is NOW the chief of technology strategy are bloviating about a device?

    My god, people. How sad. How typical.
     
  20. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I think we all know that Cegedim is being beaten. Veeva has the story, the solution, and now the customer base. They have changed the landscape of CRM in pharma, and kudos to them for doing it so well. Cegedim could learn something from them.