ZS associates, please share how you feel...

Please share how you had happy holiday meals with your families while THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS had shitty Christmases all because of your crappy "forecasting" and "optimization" techniques.

You are all scum, and I sincerely hope you have pain for the rest of your miserable lives. I better not ever meet any of you fuckers somewhere, especially if it's dark.

 

Wow. You need some anger management classes. ZS are first class professionals. You on the other hand are a numb nut who belongs in a postal office.

 

I agree with OP. Fuck you ZS.

 

Insulting the post office? That is no class at all.

 

since you probably just want to vent and don't give a damn about common sense, you'll probly just ignore the reality of this response, but i figure i'd try. i used to work at zs. didnt like it cuz too much bullshit work and a culture of anti-creativity. but if you think zs is why your sales force is downsized you are fucking retarded.

your company could have hired any consulting firm and they use the same damn models for sizing/structure. they use zs cuz zs has name recognition in the industry and it's easier to sell to upper management. zs merely takes the business rules your management comes up with, the sales projections your fianance team comes up with, etc. etc. and spits it into a formula and spits out an answer. that's it. they pretty much are calculators. if you're gonna get pissed, get pissed your upper management couldnt plan worth shit and oversized your sales force in the first place.

 

AstraZeneca still has way too many reps. Your calculations don't factor in physicians who don't see reps in each zip code, leaving too many reps still in many areas in New England and beyond. Eventually they'll catch on.

 

ZS is no picnic to work for! They overwork their employees and most stick around only 2 years.

 

i am planning to join zs in dec. ...anyone know what its like to work there?

 

I hope you did not make this mistake. I worked for ZS for a couple of years a few years ago. It is a HORRIBLE company. Most people stay less than 2 years. They hire people right out of college who don't know any better, treat them like crap and work them into the ground. The place is a revolving door. This is truly a company with nothing going for it. A lot of upper management slots are held by Indians who will do/say anything for money, and who only promote or mentor other Indian H1Bs. STAY AWAY!!!!!

 

I've been with ZS for 3 years since college. Yes, the work is hard and hours can be long - which generates turnover - but if you are delivering results you get rewarded. It's a true meritocracy.

 

Having been in the industry for 25 years my experiences with ZS have been both good and bad.

For the good: they do what you ask them to. They have a playbook and can do things consistently with few errors. They present well (mostly). You can use them as political cover for sensitive projects.

For the bad: Complete lack of transparency. Even though what they do is not innovative in any way, they turn it into a black box and won't reveal their 'intellectual property'. Guess what, it's a regression or some other standard stat technique. Don't play it like you've found the answer to nuclear fusion. Which leads to my next bad - anything that could be considered innovative happens because they patently steal ideas from their customers (even after having NDAs) and turn around and repackage them and sell them as their own. I have personally experienced this twice. If you use them for primary/secondary market research, beware, they'll miss obvious market events.

Overall if you do use them shadow what they do because you will likely come up with different/better results. If they do alignments for you and place reps, make sure that they rely on realistic mapping - don't place a rep who lives near Hartford, CT into a territory in eastern Long Island, NY, unless you are OK with them taking ferry every day or driving 4hrs to reach their territory. 'As the crow flies' doesn't cut it.

Bottom line, use them at your own risk.