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anonymous said:

The boredom and dumbing down in this job are emotional draining. No surprise turnover is high.

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Fact is, with the exception of CA and FL, 3 reps per State would be plenty. At least we'd keep busy.

anonymous said:

nothing matters if you read it on here pure and simple. while I believe Cafe Pharma is a place where there are grains of truth when it comes to company downsizing or people ranting. it cannot be trusted when it comes to unknown study results. you cannot police on here when its the competition conducting PSYOPS. So at the end of the day, the Surpass-CVOT results will be released soon and we will know the truth and compare it to what was "leaked" here (if anything were really leaks to begin with). So to the 120k people who are following this thread, as far as I am concerned all of what we read here is meaningless.

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Exactly, Cafepharma is the place I go to remind myself of why I left Lilly, how awful the culture is there. But not for commentary on a double blind clinical study, especially when posters pretending to be experts don't even have the basic facts straight. Such as...

SURPASS CVOT is not being presented at ADA in June, all you have to do is look at Lilly's press releases to see that. Will be sometime in 2025, but not ADA unless it is a late breaker. It's more likely some other meeting later this year.

What is being presented at ADA is an "emulated" SURPASS CVOT. This is the study run out of BWH. From the literature, "this new user active comparator cohort study aims to emulate the SURPASS CVOT trial using insurance claims data." It's an RWE study, and rarely do these move markets. And even this study is blinded to the investigators, they don't get to sit and watch the events accrue in each arm.

Who knows, maybe the data will be great, maybe not. But be suspicious of anyone who claims to have special insider knowledge.

Good morning, glad to see you are finally awake. This is what happened when Ferring decided that HR would take charge of the culture and the hiring process. The managers are all trained at "NERO's School of Management", and the individual contributors are made miserable as a result.

This is not a new concept. This has been going on for years. The people above only want to get higher. They will not stay but bump themselves up short term, and the jump to a higher position later once the novelty wears off. It is not even a pharma thing. It is human nature and survival of the fittest. Most people, not all - suck. ME ME ME. Sad what this world has become. The uppers devise these plans to get rich and stay in power. This is a tool for them, not for you. You are a stepping stone on their journey. Again, sad but true. Money and power are the drivers in any company. Most people are the carnage on one or two peoples journey. I read on here I think in the BMS board that someone posted that the uppers practice favoritism. This is true, but I would like to add to it. Once they are done using you up, they will discard you. Humans, supposedly here to help each other, but at times we are no better than sharks.

Refills are above 97% month on month. Clients are not in the habit of cancelling, mainly because Sofdra is working.

Can't give you exact figures, but let's just say somewhere in between 3% - 7% of the market is already ours. Have seen multiple big wigs from places I cannot say meet with management. TO is coming.