nothing matters if you read it on here pure and simple. while I believe Cafe Pharma is a place where there are grains of truth when it comes to company downsizing or people ranting. it cannot be trusted when it comes to unknown study results. you cannot police on here when its the competition conducting PSYOPS. So at the end of the day, the Surpass-CVOT results will be released soon and we will know the truth and compare it to what was "leaked" here (if anything were really leaks to begin with). So to the 120k people who are following this thread, as far as I am concerned all of what we read here is meaningless.