Pfizer IT is curious who is Wyeth's dead weight

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To any Wyeth crew watching this board:

How about starting to list Wyeth IT managers (or techies! ) for Pfizer to watch out for? As high as you want to go. You know, the 'lard butt waste of space' types. Maybe we can get included in on their interviews and nip a problem before it starts. Now is your chance! Name names folks (or initials, or whatever) and their disaster projects!
 








the numbers don't lie. it's now very apparent to those who matter where the dead weight is...and I've got news for you. it's not in Wyeth IT.

it's sort of like that old poker saying...if you are sitting at a poker table and you look around and you don't see the sucker, then the sucker is probably you....

along the same lines, if you have to ask where the dead weight is......YOU are probably the dead weight....
 


oh I wish it were true but unfortunately there is mostly dead weight in wyeth IT. just how many senior directors, vp's etc does an IT organisation need. I am surprised there is no global shared services mens bathroom urinal executive vice president. oh wait a minute, they have one in the SAP COE.
 






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oh I wish it were true but unfortunately there is mostly dead weight in wyeth IT. just how many senior directors, vp's etc does an IT organisation need. I am surprised there is no global shared services mens bathroom urinal executive vice president. oh wait a minute, they have one in the SAP COE.
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They actually have two, one functional, one technical. Neither understands what the other does. Both report to a team lead who reports to an Asc Dir, who reports to a director, who reports to a senior director. An entire org chart of 6, over $600,000 in administrative/management, < $200,000 for the actual worker bees. Yeh, there is plenty of room to cut in Wyeth IT. Take a look around, we all know who gets the work done and who just talks about it.
 


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They actually have two, one functional, one technical. Neither understands what the other does. Both report to a team lead who reports to an Asc Dir, who reports to a director, who reports to a senior director. An entire org chart of 6, over $600,000 in administrative/management, < $200,000 for the actual worker bees. Yeh, there is plenty of room to cut in Wyeth IT. Take a look around, we all know who gets the work done and who just talks about it.
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And don't forget, there are many people who spend a lot of effort making sure that other people can't get their work done. They are able to move in and out of other groups' projects; especially moving in when projects seem to be going well. And then they complicate, mess things up and make arbitrary decisions until the project stands still. Higher management seems to like listening to these people.

I seem to see a lot less of this now - could be because most projects are on hold, and there is a lot less blood to feed on.
 


Originally, this was usually shared services trying to jump on a successful SAP project and ride out the momemtum. Typically KFitzy trying to grab some limelight by pushing one of his cronies to sandbag the project. Just what does JM do (ever) anyway. Eventually the SAP teams grew so top heavy that they started jumping on each other in the same way. What a Cluster F*&^%. Sad to say and have experienced this mess but a good top down house cleaning is well overdue. Hollywood could not invent this place.
 


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Originally, this was usually shared services trying to jump on a successful SAP project and ride out the momemtum. Typically KFitzy trying to grab some limelight by pushing one of his cronies to sandbag the project. Just what does JM do (ever) anyway. Eventually the SAP teams grew so top heavy that they started jumping on each other in the same way. What a Cluster F*&^%. Sad to say and have experienced this mess but a good top down house cleaning is well overdue. Hollywood could not invent this place.
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It's incredulous that WYE-PFE has now decided to use SAP for their Manufacturing and Finance. At least the Kiesling email stated that the post-closing SAP team will be small. Hopefully it will be empowered to run most things under one roof. I've been involved in projects that went from very successful and promising POC/initial phases run by small teams to ... very inefficient, vicious and bloated top heavy 'teams' full of hidden agendas. Senior people managers made up 80+% of my last project team (eventually 'postponed' pending post-merger strategy), plus Accenture PM's thrown in. In this case, thank God for the merger which has essentially ended the project.
 


The dead weight in Wyeth IT is ACCENTURE. However as a former consultant at the Frazer, PA office, there is also some dead weight in their employees as well. You wouldn't believe how little time some of them even spend in the office and when they are there...there are not much use anyway. Lots of running around in circles.
 






I'm surprised to see this kind of chatter in here. All I hope is that everyone is seen in the light.. That is what competencies an individual has and what have they done with them...
 






what have you been smoking. On the shared services side Wyeth was nothing but dead weight. I think they even had a senior director in charge of toilet paper dispensing or perhaps that was a VP. Probably should check with KFitzey. I know I am exagerating but everyone in Wyeth was some sort of a director and the move to Pfizer has just propagated the same waste. There must be some compromising photos of Wyeth IT leadership. Its the only thing that could justify the titles some people have in the organization when compared to what they actaully do and questionably accomplish. Check out the BS titles and salaries in the SAP teams.
 



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