So, You've been out of Pharma for 5+ yrs. How's it going?

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anonymous said:
a careers in sales is cornball, for sure.
a career in sales management, more cornball.
and when you look at health sales, now you are talking toxic fucking nightmare.
add corporation selling, you are a robot, asshole, for the most part, taking orders from certified r*****s.

If I had to do it all over, I would have just became a plumber. You make good money. You always have a job. And when you fix the dam problem, you are loved greatly.

We got conned into this game because we didn't know better.

The people that are scary are the ones that actually think they are making a difference. And the worst are the vaccine or oncology reps that bring products that do absolutely nothing, but make big money for their companies without helping patients at all (facts show that people don't live longer with these products).

at least if you are selling products that help respiratory issues or diabetes, you are doing something positive, as these products do make a difference in quality of life. shit, even some pain medications do good.
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AMEN
 


anonymous said:
You need to stop blaming pharma and take a good long look in the mirror. You should've been able to reinvent yourself within the first year and a half of your layoff. I too went through savings, but used it to downsize my bills, ergo, downsize financial requirements to make ends meet. But I understand you've been a manager....and the ones I had were real pricks that thought they were above "all that"
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I agree. Now, for the 50plus, it may be hard but not impossible. Go get a dental certification (10 weeks) or something and reinvent your path into that sector or dental sales/marketing etc. You have wisdom and knowledge that is supposed to be used. The problem is looking for your future in your past. You DID that. It's over and it now means you do something ELSE because you learned all you were supposed to in that part of your journey called life.

I got fired, wrote a book, took it on the road, applied for unemployment and landed one of my ck the box jobs just when those cks began to dry up. I'm now in a different career and in management in the health care sector. i used the discipline of pharma daily to create order in a chaotic work enviornment. I use the metrics and sales goals skills i learned to prove outcomes. i engage with doctors by profiling them as I did for a sale to engage administratively and so on and so forth. If you cant take what you've done for 1 month let along 10+ yrs. you all really weren't paying attention to your life and your journey.

You are still here. Re engage and do something.
 


anonymous said:
I agree. Now, for the 50plus, it may be hard but not impossible. Go get a dental certification (10 weeks) or something and reinvent your path into that sector or dental sales/marketing etc. You have wisdom and knowledge that is supposed to be used. The problem is looking for your future in your past. You DID that. It's over and it now means you do something ELSE because you learned all you were supposed to in that part of your journey called life.

I got fired, wrote a book, took it on the road, applied for unemployment and landed one of my ck the box jobs just when those cks began to dry up. I'm now in a different career and in management in the health care sector. i used the discipline of pharma daily to create order in a chaotic work enviornment. I use the metrics and sales goals skills i learned to prove outcomes. i engage with doctors by profiling them as I did for a sale to engage administratively and so on and so forth. If you cant take what you've done for 1 month let along 10+ yrs. you all really weren't paying attention to your life and your journey.

You are still here. Re engage and do something.
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Thoughtful post! I did just that. Reconnected with a former career and now I'm practicing as a professional in that field. I don't make anywhere close to what I was making in Pharma, but I'm actually happier. I work hard, and earn less, but have less stress, feel good about what I do, and I don't fear layoffs because they're not part of the landscape in the field I re-entered. In addition to job security and less stress, my compensation will continue to improve in the years ahead. In the meantime, I've adjusted to a lower salary, although the abundance of overtime (and my motivation to work) partially compensates for the lower income. It's good - things are working out.
 



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