Don’t ever give 2 weeks notice here

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Just FYI, if you’re going to quit, don’t give two weeks notice because there’s a chance that they won’t honor it. At least two people in the last year have given 2 weeks notice and Horizon insisted that their last day be sooner. If you fight them on it, they will simply call it involuntary separation versus voluntary. They have giving others the full two weeks, though. One for sure was not even on a PIP.
At the very least, don’t hand over any information about your accounts/patients until the last day if you are brave enough to give a full two weeks notice. This place is crazy.
 


anonymous said:
Just FYI, if you’re going to quit, don’t give two weeks notice because there’s a chance that they won’t honor it. At least two people in the last year have given 2 weeks notice and Horizon insisted that their last day be sooner. If you fight them on it, they will simply call it involuntary separation versus voluntary. They have giving others the full two weeks, though. One for sure was not even on a PIP.
At the very least, don’t hand over any information about your accounts/patients until the last day if you are brave enough to give a full two weeks notice. This place is crazy.[/QUOTE

No company does. Too many people make couch calls for two weeks. Better have a great relationship with your manager and regional if you want to coast.
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You all put yourself in these bad situations, with bad companies.

Yes, quit on your last payday.

Yes, just quit in a "cold" manner unless you really like your manager (but, I don't know why you would quit a job with a good manager).

Carry on.
 


pretty common practice in this industry. If you are in good standing, the manager and their boss like you, and they believe you will put an honest effort in the last two weeks then you may be granted those two weeks. Otherwise its pretty common to end employment immediately.
 


anonymous said:
pretty common practice in this industry. If you are in good standing, the manager and their boss like you, and they believe you will put an honest effort in the last two weeks then you may be granted those two weeks. Otherwise its pretty common to end employment immediately.
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Um, no, it’s not. We aren’t talking about just not working out in the field and turning off your access to email, etc. Yes, THAT is common. But not paying someone for the two full weeks is absolutely not common, and that is what Horizon has done to some people. That’s termination that they will let you call a resignation if you choose so that it’s on record with the company as such (so you can possibly come back someday). I’ve never, EVER heard of another company doing that after decades of being in this industry at multiple companies, and neither has anyone else that I have spoken to in this industry. Hell, I’ve never heard of it in any professional industry! So, no, it’s not common. It’s unheard of in pharma. Horizon has extremely vindictive, immature, unprofessional leadership. It’s pathetic.
 


anonymous said:
Um, no, it’s not. We aren’t talking about just not working out in the field and turning off your access to email, etc. Yes, THAT is common. But not paying someone for the two full weeks is absolutely not common, and that is what Horizon has done to some people. That’s termination that they will let you call a resignation if you choose so that it’s on record with the company as such (so you can possibly come back someday). I’ve never, EVER heard of another company doing that after decades of being in this industry at multiple companies, and neither has anyone else that I have spoken to in this industry. Hell, I’ve never heard of it in any professional industry! So, no, it’s not common. It’s unheard of in pharma. Horizon has extremely vindictive, immature, unprofessional leadership. It’s pathetic.
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anonymous said:
Um, no, it’s not. We aren’t talking about just not working out in the field and turning off your access to email, etc. Yes, THAT is common. But not paying someone for the two full weeks is absolutely not common, and that is what Horizon has done to some people. That’s termination that they will let you call a resignation if you choose so that it’s on record with the company as such (so you can possibly come back someday). I’ve never, EVER heard of another company doing that after decades of being in this industry at multiple companies, and neither has anyone else that I have spoken to in this industry. Hell, I’ve never heard of it in any professional industry! So, no, it’s not common. It’s unheard of in pharma. Horizon has extremely vindictive, immature, unprofessional leadership. It’s pathetic.
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So?
 


anonymous said:
So?
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So….
This is the place that constantly posts on linkedin that they are the best place to work. How is that & yet so many leave?

People leave Horizon not because of a bad manager but rather a systemic inhumanity.

Good people are mentally abused & even in that gaze still try to be professional & give two weeks because no matter how well things are going, there is a transition out, patients to help, plans to review. But that does not matter.

Amidst the large pay, big bonuses, rare disease club, Christmas parties with $15k AMEX gift cards & a we-work corporate environment, there is a vindictive executioner roaming the halls & if you don’t get pipped & decide to take matters into your hands, if you give two weeks & think you’ve crossed the finish line, you haven’t.

hear the cock of a gun if you give two weeks.
 


anonymous said:
I’ve never, EVER heard of another company doing that after decades of being in this industry at multiple companies, and neither has anyone else that I have spoken to in this industry. Hell, I’ve never heard of it in any professional industry! So, no, it’s not common. It’s unheard of in pharma. Horizon has extremely vindictive, immature, unprofessional leadership. It’s pathetic.
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You obviously are just a rep and not a manager of people, because a lot of the managers I have spoken with in multiple organizations, as well as the ones Ive managed at, follow the same principles that were made about resigning persons standing in the organization and if the manager felt they would put an honest effort into the last two weeks. Another consideration is what company the person is leaving and going to. If its a competitor its a done deal on that day.
 


anonymous said:
So….
This is the place that constantly posts on linkedin that they are the best place to work. How is that & yet so many leave?

People leave Horizon not because of a bad manager but rather a systemic inhumanity.

Good people are mentally abused & even in that gaze still try to be professional & give two weeks because no matter how well things are going, there is a transition out, patients to help, plans to review. But that does not matter.

Amidst the large pay, big bonuses, rare disease club, Christmas parties with $15k AMEX gift cards & a we-work corporate environment, there is a vindictive executioner roaming the halls & if you don’t get pipped & decide to take matters into your hands, if you give two weeks & think you’ve crossed the finish line, you haven’t.

hear the cock of a gun if you give two weeks.
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you’re an idiot!
 






anonymous said:
So….
This is the place that constantly posts on linkedin that they are the best place to work. How is that & yet so many leave?

People leave Horizon not because of a bad manager but rather a systemic inhumanity.

Good people are mentally abused & even in that gaze still try to be professional & give two weeks because no matter how well things are going, there is a transition out, patients to help, plans to review. But that does not matter.

Amidst the large pay, big bonuses, rare disease club, Christmas parties with $15k AMEX gift cards & a we-work corporate environment, there is a vindictive executioner roaming the halls & if you don’t get pipped & decide to take matters into your hands, if you give two weeks & think you’ve crossed the finish line, you haven’t.

hear the cock of a gun if you give two weeks.
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You are mistaken, snookums. A two-week notice is an option. The resigned is not required to give one just like the employer is not required to honor one. It’s a request, nothing more. Grow up. You’re pathetic.
 


anonymous said:
So….
This is the place that constantly posts on linkedin that they are the best place to work. How is that & yet so many leave?

People leave Horizon not because of a bad manager but rather a systemic inhumanity.

Good people are mentally abused & even in that gaze still try to be professional & give two weeks because no matter how well things are going, there is a transition out, patients to help, plans to review. But that does not matter.

Amidst the large pay, big bonuses, rare disease club, Christmas parties with $15k AMEX gift cards & a we-work corporate environment, there is a vindictive executioner roaming the halls & if you don’t get pipped & decide to take matters into your hands, if you give two weeks & think you’ve crossed the finish line, you haven’t.

hear the cock of a gun if you give two weeks.
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anonymous said:
You obviously are just a rep and not a manager of people, because a lot of the managers I have spoken with in multiple organizations, as well as the ones Ive managed at, follow the same principles that were made about resigning persons standing in the organization and if the manager felt they would put an honest effort into the last two weeks. Another consideration is what company the person is leaving and going to. If its a competitor its a done deal on that day.
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You OBVIOUSLY are an idiot. I have been a manager in pharma, amongst other roles. What you are referring to is time actually continuing to work (not getting cut off), NOT the actual last day of official emolument and thus pay. Refusing to honor the the full two weeks for PAY is so ungodly far from common, dipshit.
 




anonymous said:
You OBVIOUSLY are an idiot. I have been a manager in pharma, amongst other roles. What you are referring to is time actually continuing to work (not getting cut off), NOT the actual last day of official emolument and thus pay. Refusing to honor the the full two weeks for PAY is so ungodly far from common, dipshit.
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if you say so, but anyone resorting to name calling obviously isn't at a manager level.
 







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