Inquiring about benefits

PS You can be an awesome rep and have a low volume territory and make $120K a year. Its all about how mach revenue your territory brings in. There is a kicker added if you make a certain revenue that is only paid at a designated revenue number. Lower volume territories cant make that kicker that puts them into a higher payout.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. The Doctor writes the order for the appropriate patients when they feel
it is medically necessary. As a rep, we dont tell them to write it for all of their Medicare patients. They write it for the patients they feel need it. How is that Medicare fraud. Also, we have clinical data showing efficacy. You are dead wrong!

 

Thanks for the honest feedback.

 

I have no idea what I am talking about? Ok. My post was not meant to argue with someone that is living in a delusional world. It was meant to help out someone who is considering a position at Myriad Neuroscience. They need to know what they are getting into.

First, if you take a job at Myriad you will see reps all around you, and you will feel the pressure to be one of them, that will somehow have a LTC facility that will test 35 medicare patients the final week of the quarter. Oh, and just coincidentally every single one of those test will be a person with a MDD diagnosis. Trust me, this is not a Psychiatrist just deciding that 35 LTC patients need Genesight the last week of the quarter and need a Genesight test.

In fact, there are Psychiatrists that are some of the highest revenue orderers of Genesight that don't even know a Genesight test from a tox screen test. How? Reps register the Psychiatrist and create a phony email that goes directly to the rep. Then when a test is ordered by a staff member that they have become buddies with, it is approved by the rep.

I would bet you that 95% of the sales reps that work for Genesight have sat in offices and entered orders without the psychiatrists knowledge. Or, at best case scenario, a standing order from the Psychiatrist that is essentially a quid pro quo arrangement.

If you want to work in that environment, go for it. Seriously. But just know what you are getting yourself into and you WILL feel pressure to do whatever it takes to make your number. At the end of the day, that always comes back around to getting medicare orders fraudulently.

To the rep that believes that Myriad Neuroscience does things ethically, please explain to me how in the world 90% of ADHD orders also included a Psychotropic panel before the ADHD panel was pulled? You really think that all of those pediatricians thought a Psychotropic panel was a medical necessity? Nope. It was fraud. That was just insurance fraud instead of medicare fraud.

 

Wow good rep vs bad rep exchanging view points. I guess you never know who to believe on this site. Lol

 

This is such a load of crap. I have been here for a while and I have never seen this happen. I have seen reps get fired for less. Im ethical and would never do such a thing for an order. I just cant believe that this would ever happen. That is just unethical and wrong. No sale is worth getting it that way. I believe you just made that up!

 

You can't be that naive. You can't be. You say you have been at Myriad for a while. So just stop for a minute and think about the entire business model for how the company approached pediatrics before they pulled the ADHD panel. Let's not even look at medicare fraud for a minute.

MSCs weren't paid a dime on the ADHD panel. Never have been because the company's reimbursement was negligible for the ADHD panel. Yet many territories lost nearly 50% of their revenue when they pulled the ADHD panel. LC, one of the top reps with the company, was one of those.

Why? Because a Psychotropic report was being added onto nearly every single ADHD panel. 92% of all ADHD panels ordered from a pediatrician had a psychotropic panel as well. Pediatricians ordered the Psychotropic panel along with ADHD because "it didn't cost the patient any more money and they may need it in future". But it certainly cost the insurance companies more money. This constitutes insurance fraud. Be naive all you want if your response is "well, the pediatricians are the ones that ordered the tests." How do you think those providers were informed that they should always order both tests and that the cost was the same? RBM's would call MSCs when they saw ADHD only orders and tell the MSCs to go into the office and get the Psychotropic order added. It was an easy conversation to the Genesight User...... "hey, add the psychotropic panel because it doesn't cost any more."

Somehow maybe you are naive to the medicare fraud practices that are going on every day in the field. If so, then congrats to you for trying to remain ethical. My suggestion if you want to have your eyes opened is take a look at the MSCs that will jump from 85% projected quota to over 100% in the last day or two of the quarter.

But if you say for a second that you weren't aware that a psychotropic panel was being added on to 90% of ADHD panels because "it didn't cost the patient any more money" then I am calling bullshit. You don't work for the company if you aren't aware of that. You obviously didn't watch the revenue drop like a rock after the ADHD panel was pulled.

Myriad is an unethical company and I can't wait to leave. Interviewing as fast as I can.

 

Who ya interviewing with?

 

Looking at Merck and Forrest

 

Good luck with that champ. Lmao

 

The problem with cafepharma is that anyone can post anything. I am the person that wrote the posts about Myriad being unethical and wanting to leave.

I did not, however, post that I was looking at Merck and Forrest. Again, that is a cafepharma problem with everyone posting anonymously.

I don't know exactly where I am looking yet. I have experience in medical device so maybe I will go back in the direction. Although no job is perfect. Myriad has been a great position in many ways. I loved it when it was Assurex Health. But I simply can't turn a blind eye to all of the fraud that takes place at this company any longer. So I need to get out.

Good luck to all of you who stay. Maybe you really are oblivious to just how unethical the company has become. If so, good for you. I, on the other hand, just had a conversation with a MSC today that told me they were signing up a new account and creating the email address to go directly to them so they could approve the medicare orders. I just kept my mouth shut.

 

I have a hard time believing that that is actually true. However if it is, I think you should report the fact that you hear its happening because that's not fair, that's unethical, and a physician could probably get in trouble for fraud. I work my butt off to get these orders the right way and I believe that rep should get fired.
good luck in your search for the perfect company to work for.

 

Thanks. I got a phone screen with Bayer next week. Wish me luck!

 

I smoked the phone screen with Bayer this week. On to the F2F.

 

This is a great place to work if you want to get out of pharma. You'll learn a ton, but benefits aren't the greatest.

 

Come let’s be honest. Most of us are looking to get back to true pharma. This is hybrid pharma with less pay and less bennies.

 

Way better than pharma......even with a lower base salary.
Pharma sucks and is so robotic. You atleast interact with the staff and physicians in the practice. Rare occurance in pharma these days!

 

Your theory may be correct in primary care pharma. Specialty pharma blows this place out of water in many ways. Pay, benefits, quality time with specialists........ and more.

 

Well I’ll be taking my talents to Bayer. Sucka’s