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J&J was OK, .... abbott sucked a big meaty one...always tons of red tape.  I have 10 years in the biz as a rep.  A sales job is only as good as your DM.  I've had one great one, and three crazies who couldn't sell their way out of a paper bag, and the only thing they could do is admin, since they had the people skills of a monkey... I'm in the process of making a career change... I just don't think it's fair that a poor DM can make their rep's lives hell prior to management reading the region rep's one-a-year manager feedback reports.  The answer would be once a quarter, rep feedback reports that go directly to the Regional Manager.  I think that would be fair.  After all, reps are constantly under the microscope with our numbers, why aren't managers??  The last manager I had with Abbott was a doozie.  My favorite, was a rep faked jury duty one time when she was due to ride with him in the field, if that says anything...