Brace Yourselves SURPASS CVOT

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anonymous said:
Bullshit. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Novo plant maybe?
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99% of our reps have been saying "if you lose weight everything gets better." Disaster is coming with Surpass-CVOT. Go back and look at the Surpass-2! We published it in the NEJM, Mournjaro had 4 CV deaths and Ozempic had ZERO! We did not publish in the same article the "Cardio Disorders" seen in the trial. You can see those results only online at clinicaltrials.gov. There were 17 total Cardiovascular AE events in the trial 16 for Mounjaro and 1 for Ozempic. Of these AE's the most concerning were 5 Acute MI's for Mounjaro and ZERO for Ozempic. You tell me if you lose weight everything gets better???
 








anonymous said:
99% of our reps have been saying "if you lose weight everything gets better." Disaster is coming with Surpass-CVOT. Go back and look at the Surpass-2! We published it in the NEJM, Mournjaro had 4 CV deaths and Ozempic had ZERO! We did not publish in the same article the "Cardio Disorders" seen in the trial. You can see those results only online at clinicaltrials.gov. There were 17 total Cardiovascular AE events in the trial 16 for Mounjaro and 1 for Ozempic. Of these AE's the most concerning were 5 Acute MI's for Mounjaro and ZERO for Ozempic. You tell me if you lose weight everything gets better???
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Devil in the detail and sometimes hard to get over preconceived notion, even though Novo trial clearly showed CVOT benefit independent of weight loss (weight loss=reduced comorbidity- “same” compound- they both have glp-1).
 








I fully expect for the results to be released on a national holiday when markets are closed, Will it be Juneteeth or July 4? Even as 67,000 people have viewed this thread not a single person has offered any counter argument saying the results are positive. That says it all! What could the fall out be if the results are really really bad?
 


anonymous said:
I fully expect for the results to be released on a national holiday when markets are closed, Will it be Juneteeth or July 4? Even as 67,000 people have viewed this thread not a single person has offered any counter argument saying the results are positive. That says it all! What could the fall out be if the results are really really bad?
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Lilly is more careful when releasing bad news- almost under wrapped- “oh no big deal- we are the best- it doesn’t matter- clinician know best that it works- this study is just a paperwork”
 








anonymous said:
The Trulicity arm performed statistically better confirming the potential of negative ASCVD effects of a co-agonist with a GIP component. This was demonstrated regardless of more weight reduction being observed in the trial by Mounjaro. Investigators in the trial kept delaying the trial's conclusion to show a positive results from Mounjaro. However, although Trulicity was better, Mounjaro would have showed a marginal benefit after predicting results if a placebo arm was included
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that's why got got the glp-1 pill
 




There must be a multitude of scared Novo reps out there with time to craft BS with ChatGPT… Lol! Good luck! Let us know when we can use your hot tub Time Machine next.
 



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