Presenting 2-year data will get you laughed out of....well, pretty much everywhere.
Presenting 2-year data will get you laughed out of....well, pretty much everywhere.
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Presenting 2-year data will get you laughed out of....well, pretty much everywhere.
Not when it comes to the uni, it won't. Stryker is using the robot to show that it has basically eliminated early failures in UKA. It's a powerful conversation. If you need that explained to you, I'm not sure it's worth going forward with this conversation.
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I never made that statement....I said the uni IMPLANT is not comparable to an Oxford/PPK/ZUK and has ZERO clinical history. Uni’s have historically been finicky about implant design and this one has little. This is a sizzle sale, not a steak, and I think the patient should know more about the steak being put in them.
How much clinical history does the PPK have? Oh, it’s based off another design? Good enuf, right?
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How much clinical history does the PPK have? Oh, it’s based off another design? Good enuf, right?
mako pretty much eliminated early failures... except for the ones my converted (to Oxford) surgeons were tearing out after a year, give or take ... with delaminated and pitting poly... But you’re right mako bullshit is so much better than the most documented and studied orthopedic implant ever (Oxford) and it’s 40 + years of studies showing excellent survivorship and virtually no poly wear.
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How much clinical history does the PPK have? Oh, it’s based off another design? Good enuf, right?
From the vantage point of having sold both, the PPK and ZUK are virtually indisguishable (PPK has superior instruments though). ZUK was, and is, a great implant.
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Everyone from ZB on this thread shows how completely clueless they really are. Please stay status quo. We'll just keep putting in robots and taking your surgeons away
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mako pretty much eliminated early failures... except for the ones my converted (to Oxford) surgeons were tearing out after a year, give or take ... with delaminated and pitting poly... But you’re right mako bullshit is so much better than the most documented and studied orthopedic implant ever (Oxford) and it’s 40 + years of studies showing excellent survivorship and virtually no poly wear.
And yet surgeons continue to convert....in droves.
MAKO UKA growth is through the roof. Looking forward to Q2 earnings calls. SYK will be growing at 3x the rate of ZB again.
By the way, you guys should be more careful about which docs you drag to montreal to pitch your free robot program to. They're coming back and telling us that your technology is 5 years behind and that the only way ZB is going to be able to compete is by giving away "robots" for free and handing out midget "consultancy agreements" to any doc willing to make the flight lololol
Pretty embarrassing, guys.
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And yet surgeons continue to convert....in droves.
MAKO UKA growth is through the roof. Looking forward to Q2 earnings calls. SYK will be growing at 3x the rate of ZB again.
By the way, you guys should be more careful about which docs you drag to montreal to pitch your free robot program to. They're coming back and telling us that your technology is 5 years behind and that the only way ZB is going to be able to compete is by giving away "robots" for free and handing out midget "consultancy agreements" to any doc willing to make the flight lololol
Pretty embarrassing, guys.
It barely matters if the robot is 5 years behind bc there are enough "consultancy agreements" to go around. Same with cementless
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After seeing how basic “robotic” Surgury is for several companies now I would never have my knee done with any robot or CAS system. If my surgeon isn’t competent enough to have the skills needed to to a good total I don’t want a computer making decisions for him. Pure marketing scam for patients who do no research prior to Surgury.
Uneducated on many levels. It’s “Surgery” not “Surgury”. The robot levels the playing field for surgeons by using the CT scan and checking points during the procedure. If you want to design a house with pencils and a slide rule then build it with a tape measure and a level. Be my guest. I pick technology. Drive from LA to New York with 30 maps or pull out your smart phone and get directions. And may I also remind you that once robotics enters an industry, it never leaves. Have fun trying to catch up.
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MAKO might be ok for the low volume guy whose doing 2 to 3 joints a day or like the guy in my area that took 9 hours to do 3 makos. Comparing the Oxford to Makos uni/triathlon or whatever they call it is naive.Uneducated on many levels. It’s “Surgery” not “Surgury”. The robot levels the playing field for surgeons by using the CT scan and checking points during the procedure. If you want to design a house with pencils and a slide rule then build it with a tape measure and a level. Be my guest. I pick technology. Drive from LA to New York with 30 maps or pull out your smart phone and get directions. And may I also remind you that once robotics enters an industry, it never leaves. Have fun trying to catch up.
Keep doing a good job on the subsided A2s and the see through poly!!!
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Lol ^^^^^ this.MAKO might be ok for the low volume guy whose doing 2 to 3 joints a day or like the guy in my area that took 9 hours to do 3 makos. Comparing the Oxford to Makos uni/triathlon or whatever they call it is naive.
Keep doing a good job on the subsided A2s and the see through poly!!!
Local stryker surgeon started using mako awhile ago, still made his Surgury time gonway up. We used to finish around same time after 4 knees. We now finish 4 when they finish 2nd knee lol. Plenty of time has gone by and it’s slowed him WAY down. I can gaurentee you that he will see the same clinical results in a few years with or without mako.... if you have competent surgeons this is only a marketing tool. It might help the hack surgeon everyone tells people to stay away from (every territory has one). Like old CAS systems robotics will be getting dust on those covers soon
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Lol ^^^^^ this.
Local stryker surgeon started using mako awhile ago, still made his Surgury time gonway up. We used to finish around same time after 4 knees. We now finish 4 when they finish 2nd knee lol. Plenty of time has gone by and it’s slowed him WAY down. I can gaurentee you that he will see the same clinical results in a few years with or without mako.... if you have competent surgeons this is only a marketing tool. It might help the hack surgeon everyone tells people to stay away from (every territory has one). Like old CAS systems robotics will be getting dust on those covers soon