Another sales force reduction ...

[anonymous]

Lilly is just waiting for the mass exodus so they won’t have to layoff.

 

[anonymous]

Lilly is just waiting for the mass exodus so they won’t have to layoff.

perhaps a VERP offering would be an incentive to depart

 

[anonymous]

I don’t think anyone would argue this isn’t ultimately going to happen; the question is when? The general consensus is around 4th qrt 2026.

This has long been the case. I have a few friends and two relatives in different parts of the country. Across the board access is horrible. It seems to be particularly bad in areas with big academic centers.
I've long thought that they keep our massive field force in place in order to have tons of money in the "expenses" column. It makes no sense otherwise.

 

[anonymous]

cuts definitely coming....DT only wants reps to call on providers who write 0...
please share timeline...is it cuts in 2025? or 2026? I think every 2 years is the new NORM.

time to try another company now

 

[anonymous]

This has long been the case. I have a few friends and two relatives in different parts of the country. Across the board access is horrible. It seems to be particularly bad in areas with big academic centers.
I've long thought that they keep our massive field force in place in order to have tons of money in the "expenses" column. It makes no sense otherwise.

which area?

 

[anonymous]

CMH is not done. Too many still . This year. More reductions

When

 

[anonymous]

DT is only proving that effective reps in geos that make sense logistically do actually matter. Because look at this mess now!

 

[anonymous]

I absolutely don’t agree I can’t even get to all my customers that are asking for samples. We are so busy

 

[anonymous]

Lilly is just waiting for the mass exodus so they won’t have to layoff.

agree. if anything, it will be natural attrition due to unbearable pressure, stress and burnout. and that way they don't have to post in any layoffs

 

[anonymous]

This has long been the case. I have a few friends and two relatives in different parts of the country. Across the board access is horrible. It seems to be particularly bad in areas with big academic centers.
I've long thought that they keep our massive field force in place in order to have tons of money in the "expenses" column. It makes no sense otherwise.

It’s it is all over the place

 

[anonymous]

too many reps in small geographies...only need 1 rep....this AI/DT/RO model is insanity....not more efficient and we are on top of each other and pissing off the same offices every week who are according to AI: "low volume" Ozempic laughing all the way to the bank

 

[anonymous]

Bring it on. Eliminate at least 1/3 of the CMH division

 

[anonymous]

Bring it on. Eliminate at least 1/3 of the CMH division

Not.going.to.happen…Seriously though, Lilly has 2 blockbuster product launches taking place within CMH in the next 2 years (orforglipron & retatrutide), so a sales force reduction will not be happening anytime soon; if anything, the sales force will expand.

 

[anonymous]

Not.going.to.happen…Seriously though, Lilly has 2 blockbuster product launches taking place within CMH in the next 2 years (orforglipron & retatrutide), so a sales force reduction will not be happening anytime soon; if anything, the sales force will expand.

Keep your head buried in the sand. CMH will be weeded out and reduced.

 

[anonymous]

Keep your head buried in the sand. CMH will be weeded out and reduced.

Needs to happen. Sadly.

 

[anonymous]

Agree. Now syneos will be promoting Zepbound. What a waste

How many Syneos reps selling Zepbound?

 

[anonymous]

Access is NOT worse. This is a myth created by anti rep leaders to develop a following. Access is bad or good in areas and has not changed much. It’s much better in southern states. World of difference. We can see people all day every day and they will spend a lot of time with us. Reps with access who are good at the job are the busiest and most stretched in the entire company. Field medical has done NOTHING for years. They barely work at all. LVA is pretty busy but varies. Sales reps are either slammed or in areas with no access and not needed. We need to use brain cells and stop the madness.

 

[anonymous]

Access is NOT worse. This is a myth created by anti rep leaders to develop a following. Access is bad or good in areas and has not changed much. It’s much better in southern states. World of difference. We can see people all day every day and they will spend a lot of time with us. Reps with access who are good at the job are the busiest and most stretched in the entire company. Field medical has done NOTHING for years. They barely work at all. LVA is pretty busy but varies. Sales reps are either slammed or in areas with no access and not needed. We need to use brain cells and stop the madness.

Agree with some of this. LVA worthless in our area. Ask us for info and copy to documents for their bosses. What a joke for the money they are paid. Delete. Tons of CMH with nowhere to go. Delete some. Oncology . No access in half their accounts. Reduce again. Please use more to get accountability in no access markets with the need for people. Medical make “interactions” but do they? More to be done.