Associate Trauma

Quote

RobH

Guest
I am new to medical device sales. I have successful sales experience and have been through several interview processes. I have am interviewing for an associate position in Trauma in Florida and need some advice as to whether its worht it. I understand being on call 24/7 and that is obviously not optimal and not what I want long term. Is this a good way to get in the industry and tough it out for 2 years and hopefully move to a desired position such as spine. Just asking if that is realistic. Becuase I don't mind working my ass off for two years if I know I can get a better position where I'm not on call 24/7. Any advice is welcome. Remember if I did already have device sales experience I probably would not consider this... I just want to get in and I know that I will be succcessful, but lets be honest... who wants to sacrifice their whole life for a 24/7 call job. I could definitly do it for a couple years if I knew it led to a brighter future. Thanks guys.
 


RobH said:
I am new to medical device sales. I have successful sales experience and have been through several interview processes. I have am interviewing for an associate position in Trauma in Florida and need some advice as to whether its worht it. I understand being on call 24/7 and that is obviously not optimal and not what I want long term. Is this a good way to get in the industry and tough it out for 2 years and hopefully move to a desired position such as spine. Just asking if that is realistic. Becuase I don't mind working my ass off for two years if I know I can get a better position where I'm not on call 24/7. Any advice is welcome. Remember if I did already have device sales experience I probably would not consider this... I just want to get in and I know that I will be succcessful, but lets be honest... who wants to sacrifice their whole life for a 24/7 call job. I could definitly do it for a couple years if I knew it led to a brighter future. Thanks guys.
Click to expand...

First, you need to learn how to spell. Second, Spine is also a 24/7 arena. Third, your entitled attitude will bury you, and you bring nothing to the table. Fourth, your senior manager will run you in the ground just to test you. Last, you probably won't last 90 days.
 




I apologize for the spelling. Why the hell does everyone on here have to be so negative. I do not see where in my post there is any entiteled statements. Confidence is part of sales you jackass. I just wanted some helpful advice, which is what life is about. Helping others. I'd love to march through this screen and woop your ass. I'm sorry that you suck at life and I'll pray that good things happen to you. If anyone else has any advice on my situation is appreciate it. Lets make this hypothetical. If I was able to take an associate trauma job for two year knowing it would lead to a spinal rep job ( which is 24/7 but obviously not tithe degree of trauma) would it be worth it? I love hard work and hate bullshit asshole responders
 


RobH said:
I apologize for the spelling. Why the hell does everyone on here have to be so negative. I do not see where in my post there is any entiteled statements. Confidence is part of sales you jackass. I just wanted some helpful advice, which is what life is about. Helping others. I'd love to march through this screen and woop your ass. I'm sorry that you suck at life and I'll pray that good things happen to you. If anyone else has any advice on my situation is appreciate it. Lets make this hypothetical. If I was able to take an associate trauma job for two year knowing it would lead to a spinal rep job ( which is 24/7 but obviously not tithe degree of trauma) would it be worth it? I love hard work and hate bullshit asshole responders
Click to expand...

If you want to be in Spine, why don't you apply to a Spine company? Stryker trauma and Spine are two completely different call points and markets. An ASR role in trauma will only mold you to a senior trauma position. It's very difficult to make a transition to Spine without getting your feet wet as an ASR in the Spine market. Don't be so defensive, you have to be thick skinned for this profession. You pull that attitude in a hospital, you will be thrown out and never return. Just wait until a hospital administrator rips you a new one, which happens daily in this business. What are you going to do? Whoop them? The other posters response might have been brash, but it's somewhat true. Why don't you call a territory rep and ask instead of getting advice on this board? Might be more helpful.
 


Thanks professor dick weed. I will gladly apply for associate spine positions if they are available in my area, but they are not. So I was simply asking if taking on associate trauma would allow me to move into a field I wanted. The answer certainly is somewhere between maybe and yes. I sell pieces of shit like you for breakfast.
 


Here's the deal w/ trauma (I was at Stryker for over 5 yrs just doing Trauma btw)... Yes you will be on call 24/7, but unless u are fortunate to step into shit & be handed a 2M territory w/ a Level 1 hospital in it, you're not going to be getting woken up in the middle of the night. I did my time as an associate, was on call just about every weekend, put in my time, But at the end of the day, you will be put in a corner at Stryker if all u do is Trauma. The real money is in Recon, but even those guys have taken a huge hit over the past 3-4 yrs. And let's face it, Obamacare is not going to be helping these guys wallets b/c many of them make over $250k/yr. sure Stryker is a great company, but in Ortho, many of the sales are driven by relationships that have been made over many many yrs. I won't even touch upon the Synthes relationships u will need to battle day in & day out (that's a whole other beast) I left b/c I wanted a better QOL & oh yeah, im making a good amount more money too. At the end of the day, you need to do what's best for you and your family if you have one. I hope this has been of some help....
 


Last poster was mostly correct, maybe entirely correct, depending on the outcome of health care reform. People seem to forget about all the newly insured patients coming in 2014. That won't mean anything if you're a trauma rep though...

Take the advice of the last poster and diversify your skills if you go the trauma route. Prepare yourself for a role in recon. It's a lot easier to talk trauma if you can discuss other technology as well.

It might frustrate you that there is so much ignorance and negativity on this board. It might also reassure you to consider these are the people you're competing with.
 


I sell for a competitor (30 + years). It is about relationships with surgeons. There are still quite a few docs out there that still value service and there are quite of few docs that take service for granted and will fire you over basically nothing. Orthopedic sales is like walking a mine field every week. You are responsible for having all of the equipment and implants available and covering the case yourself (or having a competent substitute). You are fighting over instruments and implants with your co-reps, dealing with back-orders and office screw ups, miscommunications, etc and every now and then you step on a land mine. Usually you can fix it on the fly and everything goes great. It is when it doesn't....it determines your fate. Do you have enough brownie points built up to keep the business? You sometimes do and sometimes don't. I deal with fear in this business everyday and maybe that is why I have lasted this long
 


Anonymous said:
I sell for a competitor (30 + years). It is about relationships with surgeons. There are still quite a few docs out there that still value service and there are quite of few docs that take service for granted and will fire you over basically nothing. Orthopedic sales is like walking a mine field every week. You are responsible for having all of the equipment and implants available and covering the case yourself (or having a competent substitute). You are fighting over instruments and implants with your co-reps, dealing with back-orders and office screw ups, miscommunications, etc and every now and then you step on a land mine. Usually you can fix it on the fly and everything goes great. It is when it doesn't....it determines your fate. Do you have enough brownie points built up to keep the business? You sometimes do and sometimes don't. I deal with fear in this business everyday and maybe that is why I have lasted this long
Click to expand...

I'm a competitor also and sounds like we both work for smith and nephew. Statement couldn't be more true!
 


RobH said:
Thanks professor dick weed. I will gladly apply for associate spine positions if they are available in my area, but they are not. So I was simply asking if taking on associate trauma would allow me to move into a field I wanted. The answer certainly is somewhere between maybe and yes. I sell pieces of shit like you for breakfast.
Click to expand...

You are an idiot! You obviously don't sell shit for breakfast because you ain't in this business!! Nor will you get in this business. Good going RobH!! So you are applying to Stryker trauma only to bail if you get a gig you want? Thanks for posting, I'll call all the Stryker managers in Florida and send them to this board. RobH!!
 


Haha! I love all the negativity. And I'm very glad you have the time to call all of the Stryker Managers in Florida. Sounds like you have a lot of time on your hands. Want to meet up at a volleyball court? I'll spike that ball right in your face and then make you eat it, while I give you a giant wedgie! Then when I become national sales manager, I'll allow you to shine my shoes. Yeah... keep posting anonymously bud. Thanks to the previous posters for some helpful info. I have now already interviewed on the last rounds of the process and got the job offer on Friday. I believe I will take it, but I'm waiting to hear back from another company at any moment. Thanks.
 




RobH said:
Haha! I love all the negativity. And I'm very glad you have the time to call all of the Stryker Managers in Florida. Sounds like you have a lot of time on your hands. Want to meet up at a volleyball court? I'll spike that ball right in your face and then make you eat it, while I give you a giant wedgie! Then when I become national sales manager, I'll allow you to shine my shoes. Yeah... keep posting anonymously bud. Thanks to the previous posters for some helpful info. I have now already interviewed on the last rounds of the process and got the job offer on Friday. I believe I will take it, but I'm waiting to hear back from another company at any moment. Thanks.
Click to expand...

That is funny! Is that Iceman from Top Gun??
 


On Wednesday I had my f2f with the RM in florida. At the end of interview he asked me to go online and take the gallup test and email him the results and we would get a follow up interview. From everything I have read, everyone does a PHONE gallup test. I asked him about this and was told the phone Gallup is for when you are applying to Full Sales Rep and RM jobs. Is this correct or and I getting the run a round? I imagine I will get blasted by plenty of people on this post, but does anyone know or has anyone heard of taking the Gallup online? HIGH FIVE
 


You are getting the run around. The Gallup is a phone interview that lasts about an hour. They are not simple yes or no answers...the Gallup folks are listening to how you answer each question. So, nothing online would ever be adequate for them. I think this manager is probably stringing you along. Quite honestly--if I were you--I'd pull my name out of the ring. Tell him on Monday...if he truly wants to keep the process going, he will (I've seen this a lot). But like going after a girl that immediately puts you in the friend zone, probably best to cut bait. Save your emotional capital.
Ps: I'm a long tenured rep at syk...this is good, honest feedback
 


Thanks for the response. I did actually find out there is on online Gallup test. I have an account set up by Stryker and its basically a strength assessment test. I'm going to take it although I'm not convinced its worth my time since I'm not hearing anything about other canidates taking the online Gallup. I think I'll be good because I took it for a low level management job with a small pharma company a couple years ago that I passed .

Ps. I have never had a girl I've gone after put me in the friend zone!
 






Anonymous said:
Thanks for the response. I did actually find out there is on online Gallup test. I have an account set up by Stryker and its basically a strength assessment test. I'm going to take it although I'm not convinced its worth my time since I'm not hearing anything about other canidates taking the online Gallup. I think I'll be good because I took it for a low level management job with a small pharma company a couple years ago that I passed .

Ps. I have never had a girl I've gone after put me in the friend zone!
Click to expand...

Douchebag, did you get the job with Stryker??? We would all like to know after you spewed crap all over this board.
 



Write your reply...
Top Bottom
Back
Quote