The northeast has been cleaned out of some fine people--Shaw and so many others. Hope Shaw is kicking your butts with his new company. But getting old at Cardinal is fatal. Just ask Leo, Bill Cooper, Jim Prieston and how many more old farts?? Even Jen got out when the knives were pointed at her. These guys were the best. Speaking of D BAGS, are like Krista, Lipton, and Proppe still around? and yet, Cardinal stock is being upgraded and moving higher.