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anonymous said:
Solid guy, if you watched the call today that is who he is. Great pick from Doug and the ET! Wishing Doug the best, and some rest.
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Glad to see Doug go. We’ve been successful despite his leadership, not because of it. It’s amazing how much great products can mask the negative impacts of a toxic culture. Hoping Dave makes this a better place to work than it has been for the last 5 years.
 


anonymous said:
Glad to see Doug go. We’ve been successful despite his leadership, not because of it. It’s amazing how much great products can mask the negative impacts of a toxic culture. Hoping Dave makes this a better place to work than it has been for the last 5 years.
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It is not Dave Moore that is of particular interest, but rather the two distinct viewpoints that exist.

Viewpoint one: This organization possesses efficacious weight loss medications that are aiding individuals.

Viewpoint two: This organization possesses hazardous weight loss medications that are being inaccurately portrayed as beneficial to individuals, while in reality they pose a substantial risk of causing harm.
 


anonymous said:
Glad to see Doug go. We’ve been successful despite his leadership, not because of it. It’s amazing how much great products can mask the negative impacts of a toxic culture. Hoping Dave makes this a better place to work than it has been for the last 5 years.
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Couldn’t agree with this more. And when the competition heated up, Doug’s leadership was lackluster at best. Moore will hopefully be the type of leader who will be willing to take more risk to combat Lilly. I also felt Doug fundamentally always felt insecure about his role and thus didn’t push back on Denmark when it was needed. There was a failure to imagine as it related to the Wegovy launch. Everything seemed “unforeseen” even when everyone else could see it. Doug seems like a great guy but he’s not the fit required for “chapter 2.”
 


Bears said:
Couldn’t agree with this more. And when the competition heated up, Doug’s leadership was lackluster at best. Moore will hopefully be the type of leader who will be willing to take more risk to combat Lilly. I also felt Doug fundamentally always felt insecure about his role and thus didn’t push back on Denmark when it was needed. There was a failure to imagine as it related to the Wegovy launch. Everything seemed “unforeseen” even when everyone else could see it. Doug seems like a great guy but he’s not the fit required for “chapter 2.”
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Tell us, oh great one, what does chapter two look like for the Danish?
 


anonymous said:
Tell us, oh great one, what does chapter two look like for the Danish?
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I Don’t think he was trying to say he was great. I think he was just pointing out that Doug wasn’t the right guy for the job. No need to be an asshole. If you have something to add, then add it. Otherwise, just read and move on.
 


anonymous said:
I Don’t think he was trying to say he was great. I think he was just pointing out that Doug wasn’t the right guy for the job. No need to be an asshole. If you have something to add, then add it. Otherwise, just read and move on.
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There is a need to be an asshole. These people are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing. They are taking advantage of people because they are greedy.
 


Bears said:
Couldn’t agree with this more. And when the competition heated up, Doug’s leadership was lackluster at best. Moore will hopefully be the type of leader who will be willing to take more risk to combat Lilly. I also felt Doug fundamentally always felt insecure about his role and thus didn’t push back on Denmark when it was needed. There was a failure to imagine as it related to the Wegovy launch. Everything seemed “unforeseen” even when everyone else could see it. Doug seems like a great guy but he’s not the fit required for “chapter 2.”
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Doug’s public appearances at town halls were polished and professional, as he is skilled at delivering the messaging provided by communications. However, behind closed doors, his true nature emerges. He is known inside for toxic and petty behavior, often being the first to take credit for successes while quickly shifting blame for failures. Often publicly taking someone down whenever he felt the pressure from his boss or the board.
 


anonymous said:
Doug’s public appearances at town halls were polished and professional, as he is skilled at delivering the messaging provided by communications. However, behind closed doors, his true nature emerges. He is known inside for toxic and petty behavior, often being the first to take credit for successes while quickly shifting blame for failures. Often publicly taking someone down whenever he felt the pressure from his boss or the board.
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Yes. Doug is the master of claiming success for others’ work. And, he despises sales people. Openly spoke poorly about them behind closed doors. Dave Moore is a little bit odd, but he’s not a narcissist like Doug. This move is a win for all of us.
 


I still can’t believe Doug made it as long as he did. He never should have gotten the job he’s currently in. Way over his head. And he has zero balls. And he has zero loyalty. So glad Novo kicked him to the curb.
 


Dave is definitely more strategic. He ran a tight operation of all the precious commercial SVP we had. No nonsense and stoic to deliver tough and needed changes.
Lilly has half the field force and dominating the market.
Look at what's happening in IO. Timing makes sense for Dave to clean up US with some big restructuring. New guy new plan.
Doug always got weepy when he had to restructure. He didn't want to deal with the changes coming.
 


Dave is the hatchet man! Those of us that have been around long enough remember his eagerness to control and trim lots of fat. He was also a sales guy. You're either selling or helping the reps sell more.
Other teams that don't directly make money could be more unforgiving if they have more flub. Home office, account managers, medical, marketing. Reps are only a slice of the 5000 US employees.
 




As far as Doug’s reign, and Negelle’s for that matter. Easy to lead/manage when the drugs sell themselves, that era has come to an end. Lets see how they do in an environment with significant competition and a product with FDA sanctioned superiority.
 


anonymous said:
As far as Doug’s reign, and Negelle’s for that matter. Easy to lead/manage when the drugs sell themselves, that era has come to an end. Let’s see how they do in an environment with significant competition and a product with FDA sanctioned superiority.
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So they’ve said we will be more competitive and business focused this year? Did they present a strategic plan? So did they outline specific tactics to be implemented? Hell, they don’t even have a centralized management training and development program. Each RBD and VP do whatever they want and call it development. The ERGs do more for development than the organization does. They just created a RBD “lacky” postion and call it development. Those poor bastards will be doing project mngt for the RBDs. If you do things different in each region and area? You end up with a lot of variation in skill sets among managers. Not exactly ideal in a large organization…… just saying….
 




I am Dave. I am Dave. And I am a rep. (POA opener)
I want you to work your a*s off this year to hit our 2025 shareholder targets.
So we can eventually kick your a*s out come October for strategic growth and momentum.

We're all being used. Those that remain will just get booted later since Novo can't get downsizing right either.
 


As growth slows, which it has, costs will be cut. There is no product we have in the pipeline which will ever sell what sema has.

Where are the jobs for people that have been selling ozempic? Who will take us? I don’t want to work at target or Home Depot. Please let’s start planning now.

Help!!
 





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