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I would really appreciate any honest feedback regarding the fixed term positions that were recently posted. Does anyone know what products this position would sell and why these openings are "fixed term" for two years, rather than permanent. I have been laid off twice before, so I am not foolish enough to think any position is permanent, that's why I am considering applying for a fixed term job. Thanks for any help you can provide!
 

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Lilly and the entire Pharma imdustry is going to move to "contract" sales force. The days of a career with one company are over.

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Thanks for the input. I have never worked contract before, but need to keep my options open. I am the "bread winner" in my family and I can't afford to be without work. I left the career I went to college for and joined pharma because the money was a lot better. I have only been in the industry 5 years but it has changed significantly in that short amount of time. After watching my parents work for decades and then retire at the same company. It's sad that loyalty/longevity is an extinct concept.

Good luck to you!
 
A fixed term job is a very bad job. It's the company's way of having an employee at your expense. I would not take it. But if you must, continue your job search with the same vigor, and leave as soon as you can. Even for less money if you can swing it. Even what we call a 'permanent' job these days is much better than the certainty of a clock is ticking on you starting your first day at Lilly.

Good luck. Do what you must. But get out fast. The company does not have a bright future. (That's why they're offering THIS kind of substandard job). And if ever things do start looking up, you won't be around to enjoy it. Because it's a contract job. The odds of getting a full time job at the end are nonexistent. Ignore anyone who would point-out that there's a chance of a job down the line.
 
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A fixed term job is a very bad job. It's the company's way of having an employee at your expense. I would not take it. But if you must, continue your job search with the same vigor, and leave as soon as you can. Even for less money if you can swing it. Even what we call a 'permanent' job these days is much better than the certainty of a clock is ticking on you starting your first day at Lilly.

Good luck. Do what you must. But get out fast. The company does not have a bright future. (That's why they're offering THIS kind of substandard job). And if ever things do start looking up, you won't be around to enjoy it. Because it's a contract job. The odds of getting a full time job at the end are nonexistent. Ignore anyone who would point-out that there's a chance of a job down the line.
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This person is correct. I am a Fixed Duration Employee. I was promised a full time job in my interview and with my offer (of course not in writing) but quickly learned Lilly has NO intention of keeping ANY of us. I still would've taken the job b/c the money was good, but I now know Lilly treats the contract employees like crap and so do the managers!

Also, keep in mind that the contract does NOT mean that you WILL have a job for the entire 2 years. Lilly can get rid of you at any point in time and without a reason if they need to make more cuts. The contract rep is just a cheap way for Lilly to hire people without having to give full-time employee benefits or severance. Keep all of that in mind!
 
Same boat with layoffs here (2x). I applied for and made it to final interview for FTO spot. Other candidate chosen. Talked to other candidate and they absolutely HATE it (primarily the DM but the drugs are a hard sell, too).

Advice: here's what I did ---- I talked with the rep who had the job before me. This rep said the DM sucked monkey balls and was a micro-manager. This rep said to take the job for the benefits but ask for more $$$ since it's only a FTO spot and has deep manager issues. I had mixed feelings about the job and had something else lined up, so it didn't matter either way. At final interview the DM asked about salary and I just blurted out an amount that was 17% more than what I was making (and I've been in the industry for many years, so it isn't low). The DM said, "I think we can do that." Now, whether or not they'd have done that remains to be answered but I have good feeling they would have.

After seeing the current FTO rep and speaking with them, it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. This rep doesn't generally have bad feelings toward other people - but this rep absolutely HATES their DM (their face reddens when they talk about the DM). I feel sad for the rep but at least they have a job with benefits.

I landed the other option for about 15% less in pay but I have a great DM and workable geography.

I hate to tell you not to apply for the job b/c I was where you are: kids, mortgage, wife, in need of benefits -- but like other poster mentioned, if you need to do it for two years (this could be shorter, you know), do what they tell you to do for two years and be looking the whole time. They're NOT going to be loyal to you.
 
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This person is correct. I am a Fixed Duration Employee. I was promised a full time job in my interview and with my offer (of course not in writing) but quickly learned Lilly has NO intention of keeping ANY of us. I still would've taken the job b/c the money was good, but I now know Lilly treats the contract employees like crap and so do the managers!

Also, keep in mind that the contract does NOT mean that you WILL have a job for the entire 2 years. Lilly can get rid of you at any point in time and without a reason if they need to make more cuts. The contract rep is just a cheap way for Lilly to hire people without having to give full-time employee benefits or severance. Keep all of that in mind!
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The reality is it is a way of getting around labor law. Yes how they do it violates IRS rules also,however they list the rules or the HR website. Of course they dont follow them and about a third of the HR rep even know about the rules or that they are posted.
 
Any info on what the Cardio fixed duration position would be promoting would be greatly appreciated. Is it a 2 or 3 yr position? Is it calling on primary Care or only Cardiologists.?
Size of territories? Thanks, Good Luck to everyone this New Year
 
To the person with the panel interview next week and doesn't have a clue as to the drugs he/she will be promoting: When were you gonna start preparing for the interview, ya nimrod? Who's the competition? What's the MOA? Advantages/disadvantages? side effect profile? cost differential? Get a freaking clue!
 


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