Hundreds of Voyant failures in less than one year

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I'm glad that the government is monitoring the repeated failures of the Voyant due to Applied Medical's lack of testing and putting their own financial needs ahead of the patients. At the end of the day, the Voyant vessel sealer has failed numerous times intraoperatively, and I am glad to see hospitals and surgeons putting an end to Applied Medical's deplorable, unconscionable, unethical and borderline criminal business practices. I also feel for the employees and their families who have to suffer through these negligent business practices of Applied and hope you all land in a better place. I encourage any and all patients, surgeons, hospital staff, present and potential employees of Applied to seriously reconsider joining this unethical company after reading the following report. Type in Applied Medical and Voyant and the report should populate with the numerous REPORTED failures. God only knows how many other failures there have been that have gone undocumented:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfmaude/search.cfm
 


Thank me later said:
I'm glad that the government is monitoring the repeated failures of the Voyant due to Applied Medical's lack of testing and putting their own financial needs ahead of the patients. At the end of the day, the Voyant vessel sealer has failed numerous times intraoperatively, and I am glad to see hospitals and surgeons putting an end to Applied Medical's deplorable, unconscionable, unethical and borderline criminal business practices. I also feel for the employees and their families who have to suffer through these negligent business practices of Applied and hope you all land in a better place. I encourage any and all patients, surgeons, hospital staff, present and potential employees of Applied to seriously reconsider joining this unethical company after reading the following report. Type in Applied Medical and Voyant and the report should populate with the numerous REPORTED failures. God only knows how many other failures there have been that have gone undocumented:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfmaude/search.cfm
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Hundreds?
 






anonymous said:
I set the date range for the past twelve months and it came up with 102 reported incidents.
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please stop kidding yourself. Anyone who has ever worked in an OR knows damn well that not every little issue/problem w/ a device gets reported. We did an eval a few months ago and they didn't get reported. Also, this is ONE YEAR. This is unacceptable for a medical device company to have this many reported failures in such a little timeframe.
 




Well, since Applied Medical makes their customers pay for evaluations/trials, the sad answer is yes!!! No one to my knowledge has converted to this dangerous and faulty device. Notice how no one is selling it anymore
 


anonymous said:
Well, since Applied Medical makes their customers pay for evaluations/trials, the sad answer is yes!!! No one to my knowledge has converted to this dangerous and faulty device. Notice how no one is selling it anymore
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Then you would be wrong. There are a fair number of hospitals that have converted and are in the evaluation process. Are we being selective? Probably to a fault and also because we don't have a full line available. But if you worked here, you'd know that. At the same time, Covidien has been dropping their prices as a result of us, so they're reacting to something.
As for free evaluations, you must suck as a sales rep. If you aren't charging for the product, you're losing money and you're letting the customer take advantage of you. Don't blame Applied for not letting you do free trials either because your competition is charging for them too! They may let a customer use one or two free but their managers aren't telling them to do it for free either. If your customer is charging the patient for it, you damn well better be charging too. Love it when you guys complain about actually having to do your job.
 




lets keep to the task at hand boys and girls. The post is about how this device continuously fails over and over again and the majority of us don't sell it. It hasn't even been a year and already surgeons are moaning about how they don't feel safe using it. In Applied's world, Said believes it's only about saving money! Not the patients safety or if a product is clinically acceptable!
 


anonymous said:
lets keep to the task at hand boys and girls. The post is about how this device continuously fails over and over again and the majority of us don't sell it. It hasn't even been a year and already surgeons are moaning about how they don't feel safe using it. In Applied's world, Said believes it's only about saving money! Not the patients safety or if a product is clinically acceptable!
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Help me with the surgeons you're referring to? The one's that I've used it with have loved it. No bullshit. Less plume and faster. Do they like the Maryland tip from their predicate device, some do. But most agree that it's the sealing capability that is the difference.
So, are you experiencing failures with it or is it just what you're hearing? Because to say we're not selling it is not accurate. It's not the easiest sell and we're being hamstrung by the company with our targets and lack of open device right now but clinically I can't say the product isn't working as they said it would.
 


voyant could be the greatest thing ever and it still wouldn't matter because it's one of many vessel sealing devices that all do the same thing, including reprocessed Ligasure that covers the "cheap" category pretty well. It will never be a blockbuster product.
 


The Maude reports for Ligasure are a heck of a lot more abundant (not surprising given market share) but they also appear to be commonly more severe.

From the sample I read the issues seems to be most common when surgeons use the Chinese manufactured Ligasure items. Pieces breaking off etc. Those Ligasure models come from Shaghai, I believe?
 


anonymous said:
The Maude reports for Ligasure are a heck of a lot more abundant (not surprising given market share) but they also appear to be commonly more severe.

From the sample I read the issues seems to be most common when surgeons use the Chinese manufactured Ligasure items. Pieces breaking off etc. Those Ligasure models come from Shaghai, I believe?
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Wait, what? You mean there's other devices out there with problems too? And are you saying the one with a larger market share has even more problems than Voyant?

But the OP didn't mention that. Are you sure it's true?
 


you clowns make me laugh. Ligasure and the Harmonic have been around 3x as long so of course there are going to be more reports on those devices you bumbling fools!!!!! They also have 4-5x more market share!!!! What did you expect: that the 2 incumbent devices WOULDN'T have more failures? The point is for only being out a year and have virtually no marketshare, your device is a piece of crap. Now go back to your sandbox and play with toys like a good little boy/girl because you're clearly not able to make a halfway decent argument
 


anonymous said:
you clowns make me laugh. Ligasure and the Harmonic have been around 3x as long so of course there are going to be more reports on those devices you bumbling fools!!!!! They also have 4-5x more market share!!!! What did you expect: that the 2 incumbent devices WOULDN'T have more failures? The point is for only being out a year and have virtually no marketshare, your device is a piece of crap. Now go back to your sandbox and play with toys like a good little boy/girl because you're clearly not able to make a halfway decent argument
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If it's such a piece of crap, why are you so worried?
 




anonymous said:
I don't know of anyone that's worried. When voyant first launched, there was a lot of talk about it from Covidien marketing and leadership. I don't recall it being mentioned once in the last six months.
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Ha. I'm sure it's not mentioned. Nothing to worry about. Keep telling yourself, and your management that.
 


lets get this straight. Medtronic Covidien does not give a flying f*^k about you pathetic little gay midgets. You're a pimple on our ass in the grand scheme of things. When your narcissistic CEO finally decides to grow a set and can find time to play with the big boys instead of ruling from his ivory tower and milking his camels all day, then MAYBE we might care. Until then, fix your sh*tty products, get a real sales team instead of the morons you consistently keep sending into the OR, and maybe some hospitals and surgeons will take you seriously.
 


anonymous said:
lets get this straight. Medtronic Covidien does not give a flying f*^k about you pathetic little gay midgets. You're a pimple on our ass in the grand scheme of things. When your narcissistic CEO finally decides to grow a set and can find time to play with the big boys instead of ruling from his ivory tower and milking his camels all day, then MAYBE we might care. Until then, fix your sh*tty products, get a real sales team instead of the morons you consistently keep sending into the OR, and maybe some hospitals and surgeons will take you seriously.
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So you are worried.
 



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