Severance


These duds are glutton for punishment but don't even know it. They just can't wait to get another company car so they sign on with any bozo company that offers. They don't know how to change it up or move on. They live stuck in the past. Everyone in my region had sob stories about how they were laid off from their last company blah, blah, blah. Most people had 3 or more pharma companies on their resume because it was not the first time they were laid off or downsized and they were still back for more. Lay me off once shame on you, Lay me off twice shame on me. Get a new damn career people. Pharma hey day ended over 5 years ago. Did you go to college to drop off packages, deliver lunches and collect signatures? I don't think you majored in that so but on your big boy pants go on and buy a car like 99.9% of working human beings do and don't rely on a job to drive you, your wife and the kids around. Nothing is free in life not even the gas & insurance you pride yourself on getting. Everything has a price. Did you ever look around your sales room and see all these desperate, used car sales man type people pushing hear attack drugs and wonder Why me? Why am I doing this with my life? If you did not wonder it even for a split second you are brain dead.

This is a duplicate post from another category, but I think it deserves to be highlighted in multiple categories. It highlights the concept of fairness, moral and ethical issues and a potential legal violation associated to the WARN Act and the protected class as defined in the Act. If one has legal talent this is where he or she can showcase their talent by answering this question. Please respect the content of this post, and save your dumb responses for another post that is less worthy in the overall context of what occurred and the damage it caused to some, but clearly not all associated to those who were recently let go in the mass layoff. Thus, I would ask those who were unaffected to bite their lip and reserve their comments for another post.

So do you think this is also okay what occurred from a moral and ethical standpoint? Is it okay that the jobs that were cut are now going to a contracted sales force? Quintiles appears to be the company who was recently awarded this contract. I am trying to remain impartial to the process, but I have a few significant concerns. I am unsure if the severance is legal from a protected class and the WARN Act standpoint. The WARN ACT from state to state may have slightly different meaning, but it appears there is a possible violation of the Act in some states. For example, the company failed to pay (for some individuals) a significant sum beyond the requirement of the 60-day payment mandated by the act. What is the definition of a significant additional payment? A printer? One's bonus? I am unable to find a connection to what is offered in context of the significant additional payment and what precedence may recognize as the definition of significant. Maybe others can provide input in this regard. I think this figure needs to be quantified and paid to employees who fit into this category. Something to think about, and potentially discuss with HR if one fits into the above-mentioned category. I do not see this comment as unreasonable from any perspective. However, there will be some detractors. This is a platform that attracts interesting comments, meritless or sometimes merit-based. However, I invite anyone that has a deeper understanding of employment law than I do to attempt to “accurately” answer this question by either personal experience or actual precedence. The process that Auxilium used must be held accountable if it is deemed unfair and has violated the definition of the Act. Please respect the gravity of the situation as this is one of fairness, thus, in that context valuable comments please.
 


I think you are wasting your time. Move on and get a job at Quintles. You should have considered yourself warned when the drug lost so much business. No business can sustain with that type of loss without downsizing. Your are blaming AA for your loss. You should be blaming yourself for not having your resume out and a new job secured years ago. Next,
 




Adrian is the CEO. Of course, he's to blame. How the fk can you blame 500 other people that report to him?

Adrian is responsible for orchestrating Auxilium's failure for personal gain. That all he knows how to do. End of story.
 














These duds are glutton for punishment but don't even know it. They just can't wait to get another company car so they sign on with any bozo company that offers. They don't know how to change it up or move on. They live stuck in the past. Everyone in my region had sob stories about how they were laid off from their last company blah, blah, blah. Most people had 3 or more pharma companies on their resume because it was not the first time they were laid off or downsized and they were still back for more. Lay me off once shame on you, Lay me off twice shame on me. Get a new damn career people. Pharma hey day ended over 5 years ago. Did you go to college to drop off packages, deliver lunches and collect signatures? I don't think you majored in that so but on your big boy pants go on and buy a car like 99.9% of working human beings do and don't rely on a job to drive you, your wife and the kids around. Nothing is free in life not even the gas & insurance you pride yourself on getting. Everything has a price. Did you ever look around your sales room and see all these desperate, used car sales man type people pushing hear attack drugs and wonder Why me? Why am I doing this with my life? If you did not wonder it even for a split second you are brain dead.

Above is not wrong- in fact, many good points. However, I don't know if you've checked lately but there isn't a lot out there for people who have been in pharma for awhile. I don't think anyone should apologize for being in this industry- it pays well plus car and good benefits and great quality of life. Nothing wrong with that- most people would love to have that in a job. It's not rocket science but we all know that- a lot of jobs aren't especially satisfying. I don't do it because it's fun or I have a great feeling when I get home, I do it for what it gives me once work is over with. They're going to pay someone six figures to drop off samples and bring lunch, might as well be me. You are right when you say that the pharma hey day is over but most people in this industry could never make pharma money doing something else and that is why, depending on your age, needs and responsibilities, most people look for another pharma job after they've lost one. It's up to everyone to decide for themselves if and/or when they should get out and take on sales in a different industry or some type of desk job. Many are in this industry because they never have nor do they want to ever have to sit at a desk all day. It's a tough spot to be in.
 


Above is not wrong- in fact, many good points. However, I don't know if you've checked lately but there isn't a lot out there for people who have been in pharma for awhile. I don't think anyone should apologize for being in this industry- it pays well plus car and good benefits and great quality of life. Nothing wrong with that- most people would love to have that in a job. It's not rocket science but we all know that- a lot of jobs aren't especially satisfying. I don't do it because it's fun or I have a great feeling when I get home, I do it for what it gives me once work is over with. They're going to pay someone six figures to drop off samples and bring lunch, might as well be me. You are right when you say that the pharma hey day is over but most people in this industry could never make pharma money doing something else and that is why, depending on your age, needs and responsibilities, most people look for another pharma job after they've lost one. It's up to everyone to decide for themselves if and/or when they should get out and take on sales in a different industry or some type of desk job. Many are in this industry because they never have nor do they want to ever have to sit at a desk all day. It's a tough spot to be in.


You could find a different sales job, take your pharma blinders off.
 







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