The Amgen decision for the bullpen vs offices

you sound exactly like the soulless goons who sell out their families for career and financial goals

too bad so many of you are all over TO

I know, I spent enough time there

 

Everything I need to know about you is in the statement " I worked as a consultant".

You are most likely a former pharma executive that was downsized (really you were fired) from your regional, sales director, or vp of sales position. Because you had 25 years invested, you were too old to get another equal spot.

By your other statement that Amgen should wack their sales force proves this point even further. After YOU got wacked, you came to the harsh reality that you peers and subordinates were NOT your friend and have secretly blocked you from getting back into the industry at your previous level.

Desperate for a job, a pal at a "consultant" firm tossed you a gig at a third of your previous pay. Part of that job is to prospect new business which is why you troll CP to gain a pulse of the company.

Bottom line-piss off! Your heavy handed breed is dead. Please do not give old pharma advice to Amgen.

Enjoy retirement in Oklahoma.

 

Wow...what a presumptive thing to say. You have no idea what my life is like or what my work life balance is? The presumption that the only people who have work life balance are external sales people is preposterous. Why do you presume that home office people are working 6 AM to Midnight? Why is that your perception? I get to work in time for my first meeting and I leave when I have no more meeting commitments. I leave whenever I want for school events, doctor's visits and practices. I miss next to nothing with my kids or family. So sad you feel like it's a zero sum game. It is not. You can be a great spouse and parent and build a successful career at the same time. Help me understand...why is your 'enough' supposed to be my 'enough' financially or career wise? Perhaps I want to generate generational wealth where my family will be taken care of...is that so bad?

 

Tool. You're lukewarm, at best.

 

God you're stupid. He wasn't referring to anyone at Amgen working 70 hour weeks. He was saying consultants work 70 hour weeks because I brought up consultants, which is a lot, when you compare it to the measly hours we work in TO, which apparently is long hours and creates a work life issue for you lazy ass and apparently reading comprehension impaired reps. You guys are really pathetic. And you think you can tell how much someone is working based on a quick pass by their desk? I wear airpods to listen to music while I work on models all the time. I've never met a group of people who speculate and infer more than sales reps. You guys should stay away from investing. What a bunch of clowns.

 

You're dumb as fuck. I don't think you know what he means by a consultant. He's not talking about a fired executive who is doing "consultant work" as a euphemism. That was utterly obvious from what he said and the context as well. He is clearly referring to management consultant and this story you just crafted in your pea brain is quite a piece of fiction. Double your dose and stay in your lane. You don't know shit.

 

They assume that because it fits with the story they already have in their head and confirms their bias, makes them feel better, etc. It's obviously totally made up. Walk around the TO offices at 5pm and they're practically empty except for a few people who may have a deadline. Most people aren't working hours at night. And very very few people get in before 8am. So yeah of course there's plenty of time for tons of other things in life. There's 24 hours in a day. Spend 8 at work that leaves 16. Even ten at work still leave you with reasonable work life balance (I know because I've done it).