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Phil is good, once again he has high expectations so do what you say and you are good.

another positive is Phil knows the products and he knows contracting and who to go to internally. He is a great asset.there are others that have sat in those jobs so long that they are worthless. Those long time AVPs sit there and block others from moving up and reach a point that you can’t take them anywhere or you would lose business because they still want to talk about selling a straight circular stapler