AIMS. Is it for real?

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Anonymous said:
Some Common Arguments You'll Hear From EliteMed-MSC

Beware of how they word things. They try to confuse you by using "MSC" when arguing one point, then "EliteMed" or "AIMS" when arguing another.

1) They claim that MSC has no BBB complaints and that only one person is responsible for trying to discredit them-- allegedly a competitive recruiter. Interestingly, the BBB lists AIMS as having an "F" rating. Here is a link proving their recruiting arm "AIMS" had at least 13 different people file BBB complaints:
http://www.bbb.org/denver/business-...ute-of-medical-sales-in-englewood-co-90110812

2) They claim that EliteMed does NOT charge students. True, however, EliteMed pushes recruits toward MSC which indeed charges them thousands.

3) They claim that EliteMed charges hiring companies “the least in the industry” at $2,000 per recruit. This, allegedly, is the reason why other recruiters are jealous of them.

The truth is, they made and probably continue to make most of their money from vulnerable students, not hiring companies. EliteMed could technically charge ZERO, just as AIMS charged zero.

Quote from AIMS brochure proving they once only charged students:

"...Zero Fee Recruiting. We make these graduates available to our corporate and distributor customers at no charge to make placement as easy and quick as possible."

(Keep in mind: since AIMS charged zero recruiting fees, then what financial incentive did they have to place MSC grads? NONE. I'm betting EliteMed is the same way, since they still make their real money from MSC.)

4) Within a 4 year period, they changed their recruiting arm’s name from Blue Chip, to AIMS, to EliteMed, allegedly "to make things less confusing." What could possibly be more confusing? The true reason must be something more illicit.

5) They claim to have placed varying numbers of MSC grads in top companies. The numbers they quote change from 360, to over 400, to almost 450, to almost 600--without any consistency. Also, who placed these graduates, Elite or MSC? It's all very convoluted and confusing.

It is up to you, the consumer, to interpret the actions of EliteMed-MSC. All I have written are purely my opinion, and my only agenda is to warn you of what I believe is an educational scam.
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This is a totally accurate observation.
 








Anonymous said:
Medical Sales College is the world's greatest proof of reincarnation of the modeling school scam.
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Hello, my name is John Casablanca and I take offense to your comment that modeling schools are a scam.

People come to John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers from all around the globe. Why?

John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers not only helps you get ahead in your professional and personal life, but also teaches you a wide range of skills and improvement strategies.

I am the founder of Elite Model Management International, the largest and most prestigious modeling agency in the world. I started the John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers over 25 years ago to develop local talent and promote them through my international network of agencies in New York, Los Angeles, Paris, Milan, Tokyo and many other cities throughout the world.

I am recognized as the leader in the modeling industry. I developed the world's first "Supermodels" and changed the modeling industry forever. Models were not well known or well paid until I came into the industry. I made modeling what it is today and made the Supermodels household names.

In states where it is required, the John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers are licensed with the State Boards of Education, proving they are certified or licensed to operate in that state under the guidelines of the Board of Education. Currently, the John Casablancas Centers hold Board of Education licenses in 35 states.

Our dedicated instructors are among the finest professional in the fashion, beauty, acting and image-development fields. Their expertise, experience and commitment have helped thousands of our students look their best, feel their best and be their best.

John Casablancas offers a wide-range of interesting programs, including:

Professional modeling
Personal image development
TV commercial acting
The latest runway techniques
Makeup artistry
Skin and hair care
Exercise and nutrition
Successful interviewing techniques
Professional portfolio development
How to work with photographers
The business side of modeling
And much more...

If your goal in life is to become a model or actor, this is where you will learn the essentials you will need to get noticed and get ahead. Even if you decide not to pursue modeling and/or acting, the skills and strategies you will learn at a John Casablancas Modeling and Career Center will give you a competitive edge, no matter what you choose to do in life.
 


Anonymous said:
Hello, my name is John Casablanca and I take offense to your comment that modeling schools are a scam.

People come to John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers from all around the globe. Why?

John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers not only helps you get ahead in your professional and personal life, but also teaches you a wide range of skills and improvement strategies.

I am the founder of Elite Model Management International, the largest and most prestigious modeling agency in the world. I started the John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers over 25 years ago to develop local talent and promote them through my international network of agencies in New York, Los Angeles, Paris, Milan, Tokyo and many other cities throughout the world.

I am recognized as the leader in the modeling industry. I developed the world's first "Supermodels" and changed the modeling industry forever. Models were not well known or well paid until I came into the industry. I made modeling what it is today and made the Supermodels household names.

In states where it is required, the John Casablancas Modeling and Career Centers are licensed with the State Boards of Education, proving they are certified or licensed to operate in that state under the guidelines of the Board of Education. Currently, the John Casablancas Centers hold Board of Education licenses in 35 states.

Our dedicated instructors are among the finest professional in the fashion, beauty, acting and image-development fields. Their expertise, experience and commitment have helped thousands of our students look their best, feel their best and be their best.

John Casablancas offers a wide-range of interesting programs, including:

Professional modeling
Personal image development
TV commercial acting
The latest runway techniques
Makeup artistry
Skin and hair care
Exercise and nutrition
Successful interviewing techniques
Professional portfolio development
How to work with photographers
The business side of modeling
And much more...

If your goal in life is to become a model or actor, this is where you will learn the essentials you will need to get noticed and get ahead. Even if you decide not to pursue modeling and/or acting, the skills and strategies you will learn at a John Casablancas Modeling and Career Center will give you a competitive edge, no matter what you choose to do in life.
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Just the fact that you take this much time with your efforts to blog and compare with your "modeling scam" only reveals your agenda.

Sorry that everyone is hiring MSC graduates... It does suck for recruiting!
 


Nice. Copied right off John Casablanca's website. I do find it interesting that many are calling this particular modeling school a scam, and that it too has an "Elite" component.

Elite-MSC is indeed a reinvented modeling school scam.
 


Anonymous said:
Just the fact that you take this much time with your efforts to blog and compare with your "modeling scam" only reveals your agenda.

Sorry that everyone is hiring MSC graduates... It does suck for recruiting!
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I think it's interesting that John Casablanca sounds exactly like MSC people. He even uses the word "Elite."

I didn't post that, by the way. I know you like to think that only one person is calling out your scam.
 


Anonymous said:
I think it's interesting that John Casablanca sounds exactly like MSC people. He even uses the word "Elite."

I didn't post that, by the way. I know you like to think that only one person is calling out your scam.
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...and state licensed, don't forget that point. MSC sounds exactly like the John Casablanca website: Elite, state licensed, etc.
 








Anonymous said:
Has anyone heard of a place called American Institute of Medical Sales. They charge you $5000 and put you thru 8 weeks of training with the promise of a device sales job when your done? Is this for real or are they scamming your $35 application fee.
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I work with med device reps often at a well-known bioskills facility. Some of you are incredibly sharp and some of you are not (enough said). The growth of the industry requires that your company fill the gap somehow, and so what other options are there? I might add that good sales reps are coveted and those who don't have the "right stuff" are most likely part of the mix/pool looking for work.

If AIMS doesn't screen for highly educated, successful B2B sales professionals, then it will haunt them in the end, and their school model is not sustainable. If they do, then it makes sense that the industry use them. Either way, you armchair quarterbacks should move on, there's nothing to see here. Let the chips fall where they may... unless there's other reasons for the discourse here.
 


Is this school too cheap to advertise on Cafepharma like the real Companies? Using this page as an advertising tool should not be permitted. It's clear from the defensive posture of some of the posts that 1. the people who work for the school are trying to save their jobs by posting no factual, yet glowing statistics 2. people who have been pissed off by the school are posting. If you work for the schoool (or own the school) you should not be able to post.
 


Anonymous said:
Is this school too cheap to advertise on Cafepharma like the real Companies? Using this page as an advertising tool should not be permitted. It's clear from the defensive posture of some of the posts that 1. the people who work for the school are trying to save their jobs by posting no factual, yet glowing statistics 2. people who have been pissed off by the school are posting. If you work for the schoool (or own the school) you should not be able to post.
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THIS is why people go to the school to be trained. Without this type of knowledge, the odds are against them getting into the industry. Jim Rogers is the man!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54prXit7j_A&list=PLB0EB2419742AFFD3&index=6&feature=plpp_video
 










Anonymous said:
They train and prepare you for the medical device industry. They are not there to "find" you a job. You need to take responsibility for your job search and not rely only on them.
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EliteMed-MSC's sales pitch more than implies that MSC grads will get medical sales jobs through them. The "college" uses unverifiable percentages and solicited testimonials to back their claims.

Jobseekers don't invest approximately $10,000 for the chance of obtaining a specific job. They invest because they were sold on the idea that they will get a specific job through an expensive highly specific training program.

Ironically, many hiring managers are now seeing MSC on one's resume as a negative. The reason is because people who pay for MSC are generally not business savvy-- a quality that doesn't work well in medical sales.
 



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