Class action against Ameritox

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the fact that my dr buys this BS,is scaring me senseless.

  • if pp fails.then lab corrects it,stress of having to find another p.clinic is casue for lawsuit.

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  • journal with all times,an pics of patches 4 6 days,,ifthey fail me tomorow,,i jus may sue bymyself.

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I've used Ameritox in my practice three years. I've never had 'linings padded.' That's ridiculous. I in-house test with iCup. Sometimes, I distrust that, so I send to Ameritox. If a provider doesn't know how to read Ameritox, then the provider has not bothered to understand the pharmacokinetics of narcotics etc. Many providers haven't a clue as what to read and what to dismiss. The doctor who dismisses low oxycodone in a pt who receives radiation NEEDS to understand how fast, how slow oxycodone is released into the system. If it reads on the LOW end, it's still present. So what? Sorry that doctor is not carefully evaluating, and should send questionable results to another lab. I have seen AMA members incorrectly evaluate Ameritox, and they are amazingly resistant to education.

If you think that 14-20% false readings is low, try Labcorp, Qwest, etc plus iCup! And do your homework. I AM NOT EMPLOYED BY AMERITOX, but I am a provider.

Meds are metabolized at different speeds, depending on other meds taken (from cardio drugs etc. ) which may either mimic or block oxycodone, as well as pain. HALF life is 3.8 hours, meaning after that, it drops to HALF of that, then HALF of that. Also it's dose-dependent. If a patient comes up positive for Morphine, remember that oxycodone is eventually down the line from MS, so that again can cause false positives.

The COST of Ameritox to those who have NO money NO insurance is nearly zilch. You or your provider can contact Ameritox and discuss with them the program they have in place for uninsured pts. AGAIN if your provider doesn't know this, there is a HUGE gap in knowledge, and education.

If you HAVE insurance, but decline to use it, you WILL be charged. If you have insurance, your insurance pays. If you have NO insurance the program works.

When I don't understand a result from Ameritox, I have a list of what metabolizes into what and what blocks what. If still I don't understand, I call Ameritox. Simple.
 


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I've used Ameritox in my practice three years. I've never had 'linings padded.' That's ridiculous. I in-house test with iCup. Sometimes, I distrust that, so I send to Ameritox. If a provider doesn't know how to read Ameritox, then the provider has not bothered to understand the pharmacokinetics of narcotics etc. Many providers haven't a clue as what to read and what to dismiss. The doctor who dismisses low oxycodone in a pt who receives radiation NEEDS to understand how fast, how slow oxycodone is released into the system. If it reads on the LOW end, it's still present. So what? Sorry that doctor is not carefully evaluating, and should send questionable results to another lab. I have seen AMA members incorrectly evaluate Ameritox, and they are amazingly resistant to education.

If you think that 14-20% false readings is low, try Labcorp, Qwest, etc plus iCup! And do your homework. I AM NOT EMPLOYED BY AMERITOX, but I am a provider.

Meds are metabolized at different speeds, depending on other meds taken (from cardio drugs etc. ) which may either mimic or block oxycodone, as well as pain. HALF life is 3.8 hours, meaning after that, it drops to HALF of that, then HALF of that. Also it's dose-dependent. If a patient comes up positive for Morphine, remember that oxycodone is eventually down the line from MS, so that again can cause false positives.

The COST of Ameritox to those who have NO money NO insurance is nearly zilch. You or your provider can contact Ameritox and discuss with them the program they have in place for uninsured pts. AGAIN if your provider doesn't know this, there is a HUGE gap in knowledge, and education.

If you HAVE insurance, but decline to use it, you WILL be charged. If you have insurance, your insurance pays. If you have NO insurance the program works.

When I don't understand a result from Ameritox, I have a list of what metabolizes into what and what blocks what. If still I don't understand, I call Ameritox. Simple.
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Thanks ameritox sleezball dm
 


Give me a break: I'm a provider--

You're a rep or a manager whaa whaa waaaaaaa. If it's so amazing what happens to all the Pts whose insurance doesn't pay out of network? They get a 250 bill plus the ones that don't respond to out of network or denied yeah they get a full bill of 2,099. Test at your local hospitals have them confirm which then they send out to meditox and wala patients won't be stuck with hefty bills. Ameritox is a hoax
 


I'm in Ohio and would LOVE to know more about the group lawsuit. My doctor uses Ameritox and I figure sooner or later I'll get zapped with a wrong result. What attorney can I contact please? Thank you.
 




just got discharged from pain dr after 20 years, hundrededs if not thousands of passed random drug tests, i never ever did anything I was not supposed to, never ran out of meds early- followed every rule they threw at me and now out of nowhere Ameritox has ruined my life- its all over, dr cut me off cold with no time to ween off over a false positive for oxycodone. it makes no sense, why would i take oxycodone knowing that with the methadone i take that it would do nothing at all. why would i risk losing my job, kids health, everything for a stupid pill? the dr wont even talk to me. it makes no sense and i dont know what to do? why is someone at ameritox doing this to me? I really want to sue them for defamation of character because this is an oughtright lie and nobody seems to care. is there an class action lawsuit i can join that isnt being run by Perry Mason?
 


Anonymous said:
just got discharged from pain dr after 20 years, hundrededs if not thousands of passed random drug tests, i never ever did anything I was not supposed to, never ran out of meds early- followed every rule they threw at me and now out of nowhere Ameritox has ruined my life- its all over, dr cut me off cold with no time to ween off over a false positive for oxycodone. it makes no sense, why would i take oxycodone knowing that with the methadone i take that it would do nothing at all. why would i risk losing my job, kids health, everything for a stupid pill? the dr wont even talk to me. it makes no sense and i dont know what to do? why is someone at ameritox doing this to me? I really want to sue them for defamation of character because this is an oughtright lie and nobody seems to care. is there an class action lawsuit i can join that isnt being run by Perry Mason?
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Please contact HR. The person there would like to know about this.
 


Please help me. I know that this is off topic but I see that some of you work for this company...

After 15 years with the same GP (general practitioner) I was asked to provide a sample for a UDT. One nurse said "It's just something we started doing" another said "We're required by law."

A week later I receive a registered letter which states:

"On 4/23/15 a drug test was performed which shows you are not taking the controlled substance prescribed. This in in violation of your drug agreement and we will no longer continue your care. We will see you for an emergency only for the next thirty days. During this time we will not prescribe any controlled substances. If you feel you need drug rehabilitation please contact our office for a referral. We will send your records to the physician of your choice."

Just like that. No follow-up appt to discuss this test. I called and they would not let me see the doctor, but they did give me a copy of the test results.

FACTS:
*I am not on any opiates.
*No illegal drugs were detected.
*Only substances I am prescribed were detected.
*The drug in question is Adderall, which WAS detected but at a level below the cut-off.
*No one asked me when I took the last dose.
*The report lists the dosage as 30mg/day. The correct dosage (as listed on the bottle) is 15mg 2X per day. My research tells me this can impact results due to half-life of Adderall.
*I did not take a dose that morning b/c of an unresolved blood pressure issue-- and one of the nurses the previous month told me if it continued to be this high, I could have a stroke. The last dose (15mg) was 3:00pm the previous day-- 24 hours before the UDT.
*I told her then, and the doctor, that I was taking as little as possible until my blood pressure got under control. They condoned this.
*I have contacted a new doctor, who will make a decision in 3 weeks whether or not to accept me as a patient. I fear the letter will interfere with his decision. My blood pressure issue remains unresolved.
*The words "shows you are not taking the controlled substance" are categorically incorrect. (The test may 'suggest' that, but it does not SHOW it... since it clearly shows a number for amphetamines in the ng/ml column.)
*My urine pH, creatinine, and specific gravity levels (according to my research) contributed to the low ng/mg reading.
*I received an insurance statement with a charge of over $1300 from Ameritox that is not covered by insurance.
*I live in SC. I am a 54 year old female.
*I feel abandoned by my physician of nearly 15 years.
*The letter in my medical file is false and damaging and may prevent me from receiving medical care from a reputable, competent physician.

If anyone... anyone can suggest how I might cope with this situation, my heart-felt appreciation goes out to you.

Forgive me if I post this in another thread on this board. I am searching for answers.
 


The best advice I can provide to you is to contact an attorney. I would suggest seeking an attorney that specializes in medical malpractice / patient violations. I would also suggest seeking an attorney that will answer your questions and review your case for free. Oftentimes a simple letter from an attorney to a physician practice does the trick. You may have to spend a few 100 $$$ for a letter but may be well worth it and wil lead to faster resolution without embroiling yourself in a drawn out legal courtroom case. Physicians don't want lawsuits and therefore will correct/amend your files and maintain you as a patient in order to avoid the hassle and embarrassment of a lawsuit. Hope this helps and good luck to you.
 


Thank you for your advice. I don't have a ton of money to pay a lawyer, but perhaps a free consultation would give me some idea of how much it would cost to set things straight?

I am no out for blood, I really only want 3 things:

1. The false information corrected in my medical file.
2. Continuance of care.
3. The $1300 bill from Ameritox to disappear.

Thank you again for taking the time to respond with sound advice.
 


Anonymous poster with the problem: create an account if you want someone to private message you. No one is going to truthfully answer your questions on this blog. Getting a lawyer would be a waste of money. Most people on this thread though are disgruntled employees or former.
 


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Anonymous poster with the problem: create an account if you want someone to private message you. No one is going to truthfully answer your questions on this blog. Getting a lawyer would be a waste of money. Most people on this thread though are disgruntled employees or former.
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Thank you, but everyone one on here is anonymous, so who would there be to private message me?
 


I already provided some good advice - i.e. "speak with an attorney". Nobody sets up an account on here. That's just plain foolishness. This is a private anonymous forum. It's been confirmed numerous times by the administrator of this site as such. Every now and then, some moron feels compelled to try and put the fear of God in everyone that "comments are being tracked, sent to HR, etc". This is NOT true and is a tactic by some desperate corporate kiss-up to try and curtail free speech about Amerimess. Let's face it folks, Amerimess has piss poor senior management and has been behind the eight ball in market share for years due to the lack of foresight / leadership of the company to push a product that a zillion other labs can do just as well AND those other labs actually have payor contracts! DrugScan, Millennium, Quest and Labcrap blow Amerimess away. Shame on Amerimess for charging a patient $1,300 for what? To analyze piss for drugs? Cut me a break.
 


Person with the problem - if you create an account (heck you can name yourself mickeymouse) then you will be able to receive private messages. Not worried about HR. But don't listen to the silly lawyer advice, you will just be out money and have nothing done.
 


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Person with the problem - if you create an account (heck you can name yourself mickeymouse) then you will be able to receive private messages. Not worried about HR. But don't listen to the silly lawyer advice, you will just be out money and have nothing done.
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I just tried to 15 times. It keeps saying I'm entering the NoSpam word wrong. Oh well...
 




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Drug testing has to be one of the biggest sellers to corporations and State agencies thinking that what was stated to them during the sale of their capability for detection is going to be true results. The screen may be $75.00. The follow up test to confirm may cost any ware from $400.00 to 1500.00 for confirmation. I used a potent narcotic over many years on occasion for pain and the one of the largest Drug testing companies in America could not detect what it was during four separate tests. The last test was $1300.00 and I never paid them. They all worked for free as I told them so, because I will not pay for a Drug test from my own money. These Drug testing companies go after insurance money if they can get it. That is the scam, and only to raise our insurance rates in the end. It was Levorphanol, that could not be detected.
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My husband and I both had tests through Ameritox almost a year after our car accident. My husband has insurance, I do not. My bill was $100 and my husband's was $1000. thinking that my husband had a more extensive test, I requested a detailed bill from both of our accounts. The bills were identical, the units were identical, the CPT codes are identical. How can they do this? I have proof and I am taking it to my attorney to see what he says. If he won't listen I will write my state legislators and the AMA and the governor and any other person that will listen. They commit inurance fraud and prey on the unsuspecting. No wonder insurance is so DAMN HIGH!!!!
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My daughter just had a urine test by our family physician, she is on a low dose anti-anxiety medication and after insurance paid them over $1,000 they had the nerve to bill her $2,779!!! I do not mind the drug test, however I work in the legal/medical field with many insurance companies and Ohio agencies and I have NEVER seen a urine test that cost close to $4,000!!! If they think she is paying that, they drug tested the wrong person!!
 






Please Google Ameritox and Ingenuity Health, which is a subsidiary of Ameritox. They were busted for violating the False Claims Act and for paying kickbacks to physicians to use the Ameritox service. Ameritox is a dirty company and needs to be brought down.
 



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