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There is a noticable decline today in the character of the typical Synthes sales person compared with the true gentlemen that once represented the company in years past. I'm sure there are some good ones still around but they are few in number anymore. The arrogance and sense of entitlement the current generation display coming into an o.r. where they are guests is simply hard to accept. I base this because I have worked in o.r. administration for over 30 years in 6 different hospitals. The Synthes guys used to be my favorites because they were there to help you and were never pushy. The Synthes reps today I deal with are aggressive, rude and disrespectful -- nothing like their predecessors. There was a time when people in my position went out of their way to show our support for Synthes because we believed in the products and more importantly believed in our local salesman. Not anymore. I know many of my colleagues feel the same way. My hospital barely uses any Synthes products any longer and nobody misses or longs for the days when Synthes ruled. I do remember them and when they were good they were great.
 

fortunately for you the place where you probably work is a not for profit hospital and no one is riding you daily to make a quota or sell a focus product

Sorry for your experiences, but we all gotta eat
 
Whoever started this thread and used "classless" hit the nail on the head because the reply about "we all gotta eat" is a completely classless response to a respectfully written and carefully worded thread.

I agree that the decline in the behavior and actions of the sales consultants is in a nose dive. What I don't know if whether you can chalk it up to generational characteristics or if it somehow is related to the theory of top down leadership. When your leadership is weak, spineless, useless, mal adroit, and a few other adjectives, then what do you expect?
 
Gennett was/is a degerate but Carpenter might possibly be worse. Unfortunately "classless" is an apt description of our leadership and culture. Synthes is a morally bankrupt company today. Just Google the news story on the Buffalo rep facing 26 years in prision for stealing from his hospital and fencing his stuff on ebay.
 
Do the math. 1 rep = $2 million admitted theft. 650 reps x $2 million = $1.3 billion potentially stolen. The feds are going to want to talk with this guy big time. Facing 26 years he is going to sing like a canary. Expect a federal probe and a slew of resignations and firings forthcoming. This is likely just the tip of the iceberg. All hospitals should do some forensic accounting to see how badly the've been screwed by their trusted Synthes consultant over the years. Too bad most hospitals don't even know where to begin.
 
This post is so dumb. First of all its a bogus poster, not a hospital employee. Why would a hospital employee working at a hospital where they hardly use Synthes any longer and he/she is happy about that fact, take the time to post a thread about Synthes reps these days??

The other stupid point in this thread is that this idiot in the NE is an example of the sales force... One bad apple, there will be another, in every industry, over and over again. Do you think every plane you step on has a drunk pilot?

A little common sense on this board would be a breath of fresh air.
 
I agree with the previous poster.

The logic being used by others on this thread is the equivalent of calling all financial advisors thieves, because Madoff screwed people.

There are hard working, honest people who work for Synthes all across this country. Do not label them all as unethical because of one rep.
 
Please, the excuses and ridiculous analogies are nothing but smoke, a diversion. Synthes is rotten to the core! Tip of the ICEBERG! Follow the money! Synthes is under a microscope, and it is a giant petri dish!
 
Fully agree with the last poster and the theme of the original post. The corruption that exists is rampant. The opportunity and motive are just too great. The company doesn't do enough to discourage wrong doing. it only acts after reps get caught or when whistle blowers report incidents that can no longer be covered up. There are many more Bernie Madoff types out there and more than a few have already quietly been let go.
 
This post is so dumb. First of all its a bogus poster, not a hospital employee. Why would a hospital employee working at a hospital where they hardly use Synthes any longer and he/she is happy about that fact, take the time to post a thread about Synthes reps these days??

The other stupid point in this thread is that this idiot in the NE is an example of the sales force... One bad apple, there will be another, in every industry, over and over again. Do you think every plane you step on has a drunk pilot?

A little common sense on this board would be a breath of fresh air.

The OP did not indicate that Synthes' products were almost never utilized, only that the rate of their usage had declined. I believe one can find this site using Google to complain & I'm glad to see Synthes is so arrogant as to tell off the potential hospital employee; then again, Synthes personnel never did understand marketing.
 
The belligerent tone of the Synthes posters shows not just their arrogance but their fear and insecurity as they see the wheels coming off their once well oiled money machine. That and Orsinger wants reps to make pharma pay. Commission rate cuts are probably coming next. Yes, Synthes Socialism is setting in.
 
the OP is just a disgruntled ex employee
I mean at what point, really, is the one guy we know that posts all of the negative Synthes stuff going to move on with a life. Enjoy life, get out of your rut before you regret what you missed.
 
Considering that guy only has to sell 1 T2 nail every 3rd day to make his quota, what else does he have to do but rant about how bad synthes sucks? A lot of Synthes does suck, namely management, leadership, focus, 24/7 call, but it is the only place where if youre good and you work hard and work the channels, eclipsing $250000 is really not that difficult. The whining is getting very old, either do something about your situation or move on, no one feels sorry for you. I hear there are some openings at the teachers union in WI....
 
the OP is just a disgruntled ex employee
I mean at what point, really, is the one guy we know that posts all of the negative Synthes stuff going to move on with a life. Enjoy life, get out of your rut before you regret what you missed.

Perhaps but the Buffalo rep getting busted seems very legit and relevant. Why don't you speak to that rather than speculate on posters and their motives. Or are you one of the many Syn-thieves???
 
Those of you reveling in this Buffalo situation will be wishing it never came to light when your hospitals catch word of it and eliminate any freedoms you may have in your accounts.

Say goodbye to being able to even look at your inventory.

This is the beginning of a black eye for this industry and will negatively affect every rep's lives, regardless of the company you work for.
 
Those of you reveling in this Buffalo situation will be wishing it never came to light when your hospitals catch word of it and eliminate any freedoms you may have in your accounts.

Say goodbye to being able to even look at your inventory.

This is the beginning of a black eye for this industry and will negatively affect every rep's lives, regardless of the company you work for.

I work for Stryker and I plan to show the article to anybody who will listen and I imagine many of my colleagues will do the same. I'll take my chances on any fallout. Besides all my shit is on consignment so I have no incentive to steal from myself. On the other hand, you Snythes chumps are the lobsters ready to be boiled. Ha ha! Can't wait.
 
Let's see, there's Buffalo, Wisconsin, Yale and Florida "situations" just to mention a few... Can you say "pattern of corruption?" Be warned, the atheists that run this company are on the fast track tor hell!

Ezekiel 25:17 (Jules Winnfield). "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
 


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