Could Sublocade Grab Record for Worst Launch in History?


Not hung up on big pharma. Just too many metrics that don’t make good business sense which is out of playbook from big pharma. I agree! Insupport has been a disappointment and the priority should be to make it more efficient and faster. I just hope Dr.’s don’t get too discouraged. I am already seeing it. Not at all what we were told.

Which metrics?
 






Does anyone know the truth about InSupport & their incompetence? McK is a large Co w/experience & a good reputation. What about our contract is so challenging?


Mckn is a large company with a horrible reputation. Some high up were not happy with the decision to choose them. In the end they won the contract but they haven’t hired enough people and the case managers are morons. It’s Not going well and they don’t seem to be learning or getting better.
 


We are hung up on not being big pharma because our difference is what made us successful. We put patients first.Big pharma is what is wrong with pharma. Big pharma is corrupt.

Lol. Koolaid drinker. What made u great was no competition and a superior product. Field sales is below average and it’s showing. About 20% have the talent and skill to actually be a specialty rep. The culture at Indivior sucks and is 100% fake. Everyone just chanting words on cards loud enough for the moron management can hear them. Riddle off some key phrases when the right people around then go ahead and kick your feet up. That model has worked for years. Doesn’t work now.
 


Lol. Koolaid drinker. What made u great was no competition and a superior product. Field sales is below average and it’s showing. About 20% have the talent and skill to actually be a specialty rep. The culture at Indivior sucks and is 100% fake. Everyone just chanting words on cards loud enough for the moron management can hear them. Riddle off some key phrases when the right people around then go ahead and kick your feet up. That model has worked for years. Doesn’t work now.


You think only 20% of CLs have the talent & skills to be a specialty rep? Other companies that have been through this transition have salvaged 30 to 40% of their pharma sales force. We should be able to match that. I can already see that some CLs won’t enjoy actually selling. Thur specialty is educating & that’s not specialty sales. Hopefully they’ll realize this & leave before flaming out.
 




Lol. Koolaid drinker. What made u great was no competition and a superior product. Field sales is below average and it’s showing. About 20% have the talent and skill to actually be a specialty rep. The culture at Indivior sucks and is 100% fake. Everyone just chanting words on cards loud enough for the moron management can hear them. Riddle off some key phrases when the right people around then go ahead and kick your feet up. That model has worked for years. Doesn’t work now.
Exactly. This company better HOPE it ends up like big pharma! The relationship saga won’t work anymore folks. Learn to sell. Shame on this company for not bringing in good leadership. They had the chance as recent as a few months ago. Who do they keep giving us in leadership? Promotions that sucked when they were CLs how they hell they gonna lead us through this? So dumb. I’m looking to get the hell out of here, so are others. Who’s next??
 


Exactly. This company better HOPE it ends up like big pharma! The relationship saga won’t work anymore folks. Learn to sell. Shame on this company for not bringing in good leadership. They had the chance as recent as a few months ago. Who do they keep giving us in leadership? Promotions that sucked when they were CLs how they hell they gonna lead us through this? So dumb. I’m looking to get the hell out of here, so are others. Who’s next??
Bye Felicia!
 










Co.formed first sales group back in 2003. That's 15 years ago. The company is financially reputation strong, the product is stronger and so that's not where the problem lies. The problem is that when you get individuals who don't seem to understand the basics of communication, social interactions and appropriate business behavior then you end up with a constantly turning over Salesforce. This is the reality of what has happened here. You get managers who are so damn immature, that they chase the cutest youngest skirt on their team, play favorites based on appearance, not talent and generally have no idea what they're doing. You don't promote people who've just been with the company for barely a year, who end up alienating people cuz all they care about is their paycheck or moving to the state where they really want to live. Dont hire users and takers. They will run your Salesforce out the door and degrade your company reputation. Hire mature proven success oriented mgmt.Higher ups looking for easy tail, who gossip openly at the meetings and have zero social skills, let alone business acumen need to go.
 


Co.formed first sales group back in 2003. That's 15 years ago. The company is financially reputation strong, the product is stronger and so that's not where the problem lies. The problem is that when you get individuals who don't seem to understand the basics of communication, social interactions and appropriate business behavior then you end up with a constantly turning over Salesforce. This is the reality of what has happened here. You get managers who are so damn immature, that they chase the cutest youngest skirt on their team, play favorites based on appearance, not talent and generally have no idea what they're doing. You don't promote people who've just been with the company for barely a year, who end up alienating people cuz all they care about is their paycheck or moving to the state where they really want to live. Dont hire users and takers. They will run your Salesforce out the door and degrade your company reputation. Hire mature proven success oriented mgmt.Higher ups looking for easy tail, who gossip openly at the meetings and have zero social skills, let alone business acumen need to go.

You’re delusional. As in, “might need to talk to your doctor about getting started on an antipsychotic” delusional.

This company without exaggeration has the worst reputation in the entire pharma industry, with the exception of maybe Purdue. Maybe.

Leave your echo chamber fantasy bubble every now and then and experience the real world. You’ll be surprised what you learn.
 


This is guinea pig season for this drug that was rushed to market with a couple limited trials. It will flame out because addicts won't take it. If the end game is to taper, simply cutting the film a bit at a time is the obvious solution, up until final micro-dosing. Addicts also won't pay because they're already diverting half their Suboxone script each month to cut even. Insurance companies will never authorize paying because the little evidence of efficacy in existence is anecdotal as anecdotal can be. It will never be "proven" enough for insurance to pay for.

Did any executive convene a group of addicts to work with your Product Managers and RSM's to discuss barriers to entry? This drug is already being referred to is as SUBLOFADE because it's toast. Now that's rigorous honesty.

Another in a long line of idiotic Pharmaceutical slam dunks that totally crapped the bed.
 


ur spot on
we have coasted on the wings of the epidemic
addiction sales is fools gold
can't wait to see the 3-5 yr projection of the current reps
can u say - would u like some fries with that -

also addicts are addicts - the medical team is drinking jim jones purple juice - bupe is a cash cow and diversion is real and all leadership wants is more sales.

2019 is after 2018 - 2019 the year we look for new jobs !!

peace out bitches !!!!!!
 


if you want to stop the epidemic stop the smuggling at the boarders.

I did see something local that ODs have gone down in Q1 2018. It’s attributed to narcan, not
Suboxone.

Go figure, the billion dollar drug wasn’t the fix. Have fun in the Bahamas you should all be ashamed of what your a part of.
 


You’re delusional. As in, “might need to talk to your doctor about getting started on an antipsychotic” delusional.

This company without exaggeration has the worst reputation in the entire pharma industry, with the exception of maybe Purdue. Maybe.

Leave your echo chamber fantasy bubble every now and then and experience the real world. You’ll be surprised what you learn.
Delusional. Seriously. And uninformed.
 


if you want to stop the epidemic stop the smuggling at the boarders.

I did see something local that ODs have gone down in Q1 2018. It’s attributed to narcan, not
Suboxone.

Go figure, the billion dollar drug wasn’t the fix. Have fun in the Bahamas you should all be ashamed of what your a part of.
Thanks AM. Take your meds. Put the wine bottle down.
 



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