Morale is in the shitter

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anonymous said:
It's a job, nothing more, nothing less. Do what you have to do to keep it and fill your life with what's important (friends, family, healthy endeavors etc). Lilly doesn't care about you personally. Lilly only cares about what your territory can potentially deliver to achieve its sales objectives.
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It’s just that simple, huh? You must have family with money. JafedAF. Not everyone is so fortunate. Some of us need to keep our jobs.
And yes, we’re aware they don’t give one single fuck.
 


anonymous said:
It’s just that simple, huh? You must have family with money. JafedAF. Not everyone is so fortunate. Some of us need to keep our jobs.
And yes, we’re aware they don’t give one single fuck.
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I'm the original poster. Not sure what "JafedAF" means, but if it means Jaded, you're right. I no longer give this company power over me by becoming emotional when it behaves unfairly to myself and others. Fu#K them. I'm not suggesting you quit your job, just don't let it impact you emotionally. Go Grey rock. It's just a job.
 


anonymous said:
It's a job, nothing more, nothing less. Do what you have to do to keep it and fill your life with what's important (friends, family, healthy endeavors etc). Lilly doesn't care about you personally. Lilly only cares about what your territory can potentially deliver to achieve it's sales objectives.
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This is absolutely true-they don't care. We are just tools to reach their goals. They will dangle the promotional opportunities carrot in front of you and will keep you here for years "striving for area or national impact" with never-ending extra-curricular tasks, just for you to find yourself years later in the same position because you just didn't quite do enough. And if you din't want to move to Indy, there's next to nothing chance of promotion.
If you look at how DT now even gives us verbatim or what to say to the customer, it shows clearly that they don't really care whether you are good or not. They will tell you exactly what to do and say to execute this customer service job. Some managers in the field still care because they want to get a bigger bonus through a rep that would move business more effectively, but the company could care less.

At the end of the day this is just a job to pay the bills. Our benefits are pretty good. I wouldn't bank much of pension to stay or be sufficient. Take it for what it is, and focus on yourself and your family's needs. I've learned to filter out all their corporate cool-aid talk, focus on my customers and patients, and run my business.
 


anonymous said:
People, this is intentional. They want you to quit. Why else would you treat your people so badly? Remember when Rhonda once said “take care of your people and they’ll take care of the business.” ? Well, that philosophy is long gone. Get used to it or get out.
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There was a time when you believed her when she said that…those days are long gone.
 




anonymous said:
It's a job, nothing more, nothing less. Do what you have to do to keep it and fill your life with what's important (friends, family, healthy endeavors etc). Lilly doesn't care about you personally. Lilly only cares about what your territory can potentially deliver to achieve it's sales objectives.
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This 100%

Plus the awards and promotions system is so subjective that you can’t take it seriously anyway. On top of that they change the criteria for awards and promotions a couple of times during the year and do not tell the sales force

So if you ever wonder why you didn’t win based on the criteria at the beginning of the year, it’s just likely because they changed it she didn’t tell you.

They changed criteria 3 times for the ZP sales force last year and the last time was with 6 weeks left in reporting
 


anonymous said:
This is absolutely true-they don't care. We are just tools to reach their goals. They will dangle the promotional opportunities carrot in front of you and will keep you here for years "striving for area or national impact" with never-ending extra-curricular tasks, just for you to find yourself years later in the same position because you just didn't quite do enough. And if you din't want to move to Indy, there's next to nothing chance of promotion.
If you look at how DT now even gives us verbatim or what to say to the customer, it shows clearly that they don't really care whether you are good or not. They will tell you exactly what to do and say to execute this customer service job. Some managers in the field still care because they want to get a bigger bonus through a rep that would move business more effectively, but the company could care less.

At the end of the day this is just a job to pay the bills. Our benefits are pretty good. I wouldn't bank much of pension to stay or be sufficient. Take it for what it is, and focus on yourself and your family's needs. I've learned to filter out all their corporate cool-aid talk, focus on my customers and patients, and run my business.
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Yep

I lmao at reps that kill themselves trying to get Exec Rep and especially Sr Exec. And for the record I’m a promoted rep.
It’s BS
I have no respect for it
 


Phucking Ai DT is shoved down peoples throats. Removed real local knowledge

Gathered as much rep intelligence as possible, then lays of 33% of sales force! Don’t trust you anymore at corporate,

OBU is still DEI woke! Carlos and Shauna both affirming reverse discrimination verbally and then doing it! Look at recent promos for regionals!

No wonder moral sucks right now. It is going to to take time if ever to regain trust!
 


anonymous said:
Phucking Ai DT is shoved down peoples throats. Removed real local knowledge

Gathered as much rep intelligence as possible, then lays of 33% of sales force! Don’t trust you anymore at corporate,

OBU is still DEI woke! Carlos and Shauna both affirming reverse discrimination verbally and then doing it! Look at recent promos for regionals!

No wonder moral sucks right now. It is going to to take time if ever to regain trust!
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Wow, what a call out!

Now the Co-Pilot Tracking reports to your micro-managing boss is getting even more invasive.
 








anonymous said:
Phucking Ai DT is shoved down peoples throats. Removed real local knowledge

Gathered as much rep intelligence as possible, then lays of 33% of sales force! Don’t trust you anymore at corporate,

OBU is still DEI woke! Carlos and Shauna both affirming reverse discrimination verbally and then doing it! Look at recent promos for regionals!

No wonder moral sucks right now. It is going to to take time if ever to regain trust!
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I heard OBU was better than the sh!t show in the DBU! Hoped to eventually transition to oncology to escape the DEI craziness.
 












Had to share this from another post because it it’s so relevant.
“It certainly should be great (here) We have -not one, but two best-in-class medications with superior clinical data, and most HCPs consider Mounjaro & Zepbound to be the most efficacious, the best tolerated, and the preferred option in the GLP-1 space, so how could it possibly not be the ideal situation? I mean, with all these advantages, Lilly leadership would have to be so incredibly abysmal, incompetent, and metrically micromanage every single aspect of our work & personal lives to the point where the entire salesforce is demotivated, demoralized, suffocated, and emotionally/psychologically fractured. You wouldn't think this could be possible, but Lilly has made this our reality.”
 


anonymous said:
Had to share this from another post because it it’s so relevant.
“It certainly should be great (here) We have -not one, but two best-in-class medications with superior clinical data, and most HCPs consider Mounjaro & Zepbound to be the most efficacious, the best tolerated, and the preferred option in the GLP-1 space, so how could it possibly not be the ideal situation? I mean, with all these advantages, Lilly leadership would have to be so incredibly abysmal, incompetent, and metrically micromanage every single aspect of our work & personal lives to the point where the entire salesforce is demotivated, demoralized, suffocated, and emotionally/psychologically fractured. You wouldn't think this could be possible, but Lilly has made this our reality.”
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Spot on. The only part I enjoy about this job/company is when I'm in front of a customer, or off work. Everything else is a drag. Even participating in any ERGs or champion calls seems like a drag because of how many different things we are constantly expected to deliver in the field. We need to start reporting this to HR, it shouldn't be this way.
 



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