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anonymous said:
LoL yes you will... Even after the deal is done you'll still be on here crying to people you don't know about how you thought ITCI was a family. Maybe with all your money you can buy some friends so you can get that culture you've been whining about.
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Nope. I’ll be gone to the next opportunity. This one has run its course once that check drops. Good luck to you though.
 






They will continue to hire as normal and “expand” for 2 reasons. It’s never final until it’s executed and you want the illusion that the demand for the product is extremely high and we can’t even keep up with hiring. Sadly, this happens often before mergers and generally few stay employed during takeovers. Never know which/who will go but I say half the force next year and not J&J.
 


Anyone have any info on expansion? I sent my resume to an Amplity recruiter and she replied back with where I live and salary range. Any one know timeframe? Is this a real expansion???
 


anonymous said:
They will continue to hire as normal and “expand” for 2 reasons. It’s never final until it’s executed and you want the illusion that the demand for the product is extremely high and we can’t even keep up with hiring. Sadly, this happens often before mergers and generally few stay employed during takeovers. Never know which/who will go but I say half the force next year and not J&J.
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Another who actually understands what is happening. Status quo. Keep moving forward with the expansion until we are all JnJ employees. THEY decide who stays and who goes after that.

Stay till the deal closes. Cash your check. Lather, rinse, repeat. This is all good news for the original hires. We earned every damn penny.
 


anonymous said:
Anyone have any info on expansion? I sent my resume to an Amplity recruiter and she replied back with where I live and salary range. Any one know timeframe? Is this a real expansion???
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Unless you are unemployed, I would hold off until J and J takes over. I wouldn’t leave a job to join up when they could reduce headcount and put the drug into the bags of their current neuro team. It never hurts to interview but the future is uncertain.
 


anonymous said:
They will continue to hire as normal and “expand” for 2 reasons. It’s never final until it’s executed and you want the illusion that the demand for the product is extremely high and we can’t even keep up with hiring. Sadly, this happens often before mergers and generally few stay employed during takeovers. Never know which/who will go but I say half the force next year and not J&J.
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And why exactly would you "want the illusion that the demand for the product is extremely high and we can't keep up with hiring"

Do you realize how little sense that makes? I'm sure jnj cut a 15 billion dollar check because they got fooled by the old "hire a bunch of people for the illusion of a booming business" trick.
 


Less than 24 hours after the patent lawsuit settled the news of a j&j buyout leaked... J&j has been in the know, pulling strings behind the scenes for awhile. Nothing has happened in the past 6 months without j&j giving the ok, including an expansion.
 


anonymous said:
Less than 24 hours after the patent lawsuit settled the news of a j&j buyout leaked... J&j has been in the know, pulling strings behind the scenes for awhile. Nothing has happened in the past 6 months without j&j giving the ok, including an expansion.
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Expansion into PCP. You forgot that part. Nearly all expansion positions are primary care. That pay band is $75K - $112K. They are probably pretty safe. Good luck to the NSS team and all those new managers and directors. Deep cuts likely there. Ops, Training, HR are also headed for the dumpster or they will at least have e to apply and interview for their jobs.

This isn’t bad news. We are doing everything according to plan. Most of us just got the Brinks truck delivery coming. There are plenty of rep jobs for strong performers.
 


anonymous said:
And why exactly would you "want the illusion that the demand for the product is extremely high and we can't keep up with hiring"

Do you realize how little sense that makes? I'm sure jnj cut a 15 billion dollar check because they got fooled by the old "hire a bunch of people for the illusion of a booming business" trick.
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It didn’t make a lot of sense when Takeda bought Shire for $64,000,000,000 and then gutted their neuro and GI specialty teams either. But they did.

Nobody knows what will happen until the deal is done. M and A can fall apart at the last minute. Not likely, but it happens. Keep grinding and don’t do anything that might get you fired before the check deposits.
 






anonymous said:
It didn’t make a lot of sense when Takeda bought Shire for $64,000,000,000 and then gutted their neuro and GI specialty teams either. But they did.

Nobody knows what will happen until the deal is done. M and A can fall apart at the last minute. Not likely, but it happens. Keep grinding and don’t do anything that might get you fired before the check deposits.
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You're right it didn't make a lot of sense... And 5 years later takeda still hasn't seen any sizeable return on that investment. But other than being a buyout there's really not much similarities between that and what happened here. Very much apples and oranges.
 


anonymous said:
It doesn’t matter the drug. Right message to the right doctor with the right frequency via the right channel is the key to success. It sounds old fashioned but it has proven to work over and over again. The key is making sure you have all those ‘rights’ correct. Is marketing providing the right message and are reps delivering it correctly. Has the analytics team identified the right targets and optimized the call frequency (and are reps adhering to that frequency) and is the message getting to the HCP. Is the message staying in the HCP’s head enough for them to remember.
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100% correct. A lot of things have changed, but not this
 


anonymous said:
100% correct. A lot of things have changed, but not this
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Don't say that around here... According to the smooth brains posting in here the keys to success are:
1.) hiring a bunch of new reps (to keep the illusion of a booming business)
2.) layoff all those reps and the current reps. Right before a pivitol launch.
3.) pull your reps, who are currently launching a new indication, out of the field to train them on a new drug and a new indication.
4.) have a reduced size sales force launch two new indications in two separate drugs to the same targets.

We got some real high IQ posters in this group.
 


anonymous said:
Don't say that around here... According to the smooth brains posting in here the keys to success are:
1.) hiring a bunch of new reps (to keep the illusion of a booming business)
2.) layoff all those reps and the current reps. Right before a pivitol launch.
3.) pull your reps, who are currently launching a new indication, out of the field to train them on a new drug and a new indication.
4.) have a reduced size sales force launch two new indications in two separate drugs to the same targets.

We got some real high IQ posters in this group.
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Watch and learn. Half of us will be cut within 6 months. And the deal is closing sooner than you know. Good news is we won’t have to wait 6 months to get our stock paid out. Bad news is we also don’t have 6 months to coast and ride this gravy train. The smart ones are already looking. The “smooth brains” are those who believe we all get to keep our jobs.

Bookmark this shit and tell me I’m wrong.
 




anonymous said:
My last job before ITCI, I sold a rare disease drug that was nearly $2BB a year. One rep per territory. We were successful and owned the market and share. You don’t need multiple reps in a territory. That approach worked in the early 2000s. With the influence of managed care and hospital systems, more reps doesn’t equal more prescriptions.

Reps who like pods are usually pretenders who want to hide and collect a check while they pick the kids up from school at 3:00.
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Dumbest comment of the year. Rare disease? Of course you have one rep per territory. It’s a rare disease not a mental illness. And rare disease means less than 5000 patients, I doubt it was actually a rare disease product. Also rare disease means more expensive product, not a $1400 atypical. Good lord
 


anonymous said:
Dumbest comment of the year. Rare disease? Of course you have one rep per territory. It’s a rare disease not a mental illness. And rare disease means less than 5000 patients, I doubt it was actually a rare disease product. Also rare disease means more expensive product, not a $1400 atypical. Good lord
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You knuckle heads are both dummies. Neither of you know WTF you are talking about. Go pick up your lunch orders.
 



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