There is something seriously wrong...


The boredom in talking about our psych drugs is beyond belief! We offer absolutely nothing over the competition. All I do is ask if they need any samples and that's it.
Me too. Opening up your mouth is deadly at this stage of the game. All you end up doing is sounding stupid.
The reason we get so much is not because we create any health benefit to patients or economic value.
We get paid so much because every day we feel useless, bored, worthless, and have a very questionable purpose.
 
Anybody who stayed here for the last few years is treading water. You don't acquire any new skills or new experiences. Even thought the money is good, for your career it is horrible. Delivering Starbucks and samples is hardly worthwhile writing down on a resume.
 
Me too. Opening up your mouth is deadly at this stage of the game. All you end up doing is sounding stupid.
The reason we get so much is not because we create any health benefit to patients or economic value.
We get paid so much because every day we feel useless, bored, worthless, and have a very questionable purpose.
Very well said!
 
Anybody who stayed here for the last few years is treading water. You don't acquire any new skills or new experiences. Even thought the money is good, for your career it is horrible. Delivering Starbucks and samples is hardly worthwhile writing down on a resume.
How do you even deliver Starbucks to the thousands of mental health practitioners that are practicing tele-med from their home? My "honest" call average is about 1 practitioner a day, and the conversation starts and ends when s/he asks: "Do you need a quick signature?"

It'a a professional way of saying: "Please leave as soon as possible."

Makes you feel really good.
 
How do you even deliver Starbucks to the thousands of mental health practitioners that are practicing tele-med from their home? My "honest" call average is about 1 practitioner a day, and the conversation starts and ends when s/he asks: "Do you need a quick signature?"

It'a a professional way of saying: "Please leave as soon as possible."

Makes you feel really good.

This describes 99% of my calls. It’s just the way things are these days. Some days I am home at noon. Some days I don’t leave until noon.
 
Latuda and Vraylar are better drugs; what's the point being out there? They have the better drugs.
More indications, better AE profiles, I have no materials to combat that. I just frustrate myself.
Don't need that in my life. COVID-19 is enough.
 
This describes 99% of my calls. It’s just the way things are these days. Some days I am home at noon. Some days I don’t leave until noon.
When you really think about it....Since NOBODY HERE REALLY works, or at least makes a contribution to work, patients are subsidising us, with Otsuka transferring the money into our bank accounts.

Unfortunately, these are the people that can least afford it.

Does anyone at Otsuka feel guilty?

Naaaahhhh...
 
Latuda and Vraylar are better drugs; what's the point being out there? They have the better drugs.
More indications, better AE profiles, I have no materials to combat that. I just frustrate myself.
Don't need that in my life. COVID-19 is enough.

Yes, both are better than the King-of-me-Too drugs, aka Rexulti. We know it. Lundbeck knows it and the docs know it. Who cares! Otsuka and Lundbeck are happy with the scraps they get.
 
When you really think about it....Since NOBODY HERE REALLY works, or at least makes a contribution to work, patients are subsidising us, with Otsuka transferring the money into our bank accounts.

Unfortunately, these are the people that can least afford it.

Does anyone at Otsuka feel guilty?

Naaaahhhh...
My contribution to work: Good, high quality call notes:

Mondays: Discussed efficacy, side effects, dosing

Tuesdays: Discussed side effects, dosing, efficacy

Wednesdays: Discussed dosing, efficacy, side effects

Thursdays: Repeat starting with Monday

Of course, I only talk to about one doc a day, may be...
 
As a professional female rep, I resent being referred to as ho...r or wh..re. There isn’t even a comparison.
I don't think your attitude of superiority is justified. Any Wh.re of Ho..er is more important and valuable to society than a drug rep. Have you ever thought about the fact that there would be a lot more rapes if these women were not present? These women provide a valuable service. Every society needs them. It's the oldest profession in the world and will be around for as long as mankind exists. Nevada is way ahead of America by allowing them to work. You, on the other hand, peddle a little pill, for $1300 a month, that nobody needs because we have better pills, which, unlike Rexulti, do not cause weight gain, akathisia, TD, and increased glucose levels in order to make patients feel a little better. And, you feel you superior.

But, the two of you have a lot in common:

Both of you have either a pimp or a DM, (basically the same thing)
You rarely get out of bed before 10 AM
You really have no skill, other than opening your mouth and use your hands,
At the end of the day your knees hurt, yours from standing at the sample closet, hers from rug burn
You wait endlessly for customers, only to spend a few minutes with them.
You spend hours putting on make-up and getting dressed.
The moment you enter a building, everyone knows why you are here.
You don't need a special education, what you do comes naturally to you
Good looks, a nice rack and great legs are definitely helpful.
 
I don't think your attitude of superiority is justified. Any Wh.re of Ho..er is more important and valuable to society than a drug rep. Have you ever thought about the fact that there would be a lot more rapes if these women were not present? These women provide a valuable service. Every society needs them. It's the oldest profession in the world and will be around for as long as mankind exists. Nevada is way ahead of America by allowing them to work. You, on the other hand, peddle a little pill, for $1300 a month, that nobody needs because we have better pills, which, unlike Rexulti, do not cause weight gain, akathisia, TD, and increased glucose levels in order to make patients feel a little better. And, you feel you superior.

But, the two of you have a lot in common:

Both of you have either a pimp or a DM, (basically the same thing)
You rarely get out of bed before 10 AM
You really have no skill, other than opening your mouth and use your hands,
At the end of the day your knees hurt, yours from standing at the sample closet, hers from rug burn
You wait endlessly for customers, only to spend a few minutes with them.
You spend hours putting on make-up and getting dressed.
The moment you enter a building, everyone knows why you are here.
You don't need a special education, what you do comes naturally to you
Good looks, a nice rack and great legs are definitely helpful.
HAHAHAHAHA....love it!!!! So true!!!
 
What do you call a person who is bored out of his or her mind, underworked, overpaid, without purpose, aimlessly walking through life, and not seeing anything wrong with that picture?

Answer: An Otsuka rep!
 
DM here....you people have to get back to work! For the last 18 months you basically got paid without doing much, if anything. I know Rexulti is crappy, but so what? Competition is between people, not between drugs.

All of your excuses of not seeing your providers are completely lame. There is no such thing as a no-see provider! Let me give you some ideas here of how to get in front of providers:

Scenario 1: Doc works on 2nd or 3rd floor of medical building.

Get a ladder and position it against the docs window. Climb up and tape a Rexulti salesaid against window
EASY!!!! Now start your open ended probes, overcome objections and close hard, i.e, : "WILL you put your next 25 patients on Rexulti?" Get that commitment, and stay on the ladder until the doc ACTUALLY has put 25 patients on Rexulti! If he doesn't, start pounding on the window. Window breaks? No worries, the clinic has insurance. And don't let the doc get interrupted by patients. They can wait. We are more important. How can the doc not write Rexulti? It's impossible!!!

Scenario 2: Clinic closed to reps, security guard at the front door.

Buy the guard a Hustler magazine (can be expensed). While he looks at the centerfold, sneak inside the clinic. And please, don't look like drug rep with suit and detail bag. Wear fatigues, eat an onion and put a gallon of Canola oil on your head. Nobody will bother you, trust me. Now inside, proceed to nearest mens room. There are usually 2 stalls. Go into one and lock the stall. Then wait for the doc to come in and use the stall next to you. Slide a vis-aid underneath the stall into the one the doc is using, and start probing. You have the docs undivided attention. This works, trust me!!! You say it stinks? The only thing that stinks are your sales numbers.

You should plan on spending all day in the men's room. Have Paneira deliver lunch to you. Post a vis-aid above the urinal. When the doc comes, he will read it. Hold the doc's rod while he takes a leak. Our vis-aids were evaluated by focus groups, so it's impossible for the doc not to write Rexulti. You have told the same boring Rexulti story 300 times and the doc still has not written Rex? Go to ....

Scenario 3: Doc "forgets" Rexulti

Get some crazy-glue and glue a Rexulti pill on the docs tip of the nose.

Problem solved!
 
I would like to hear from anyone who is actually working!

How many providers did you REALLY talk to this week?

How many fake calls did you enter?

What did you talk about?

How long were your presentation on average?
 
I would like to hear from anyone who is actually working!

How many providers did you REALLY talk to this week?

How many fake calls did you enter?

What did you talk about?

How long were your presentation on average?

Oh this is good! First, I lie about 80% of my calls. I usually just let the receptionist to get me a sig. I actually saw 1 provider yesterday for a sig! What did I talk about? Ask him to help me out when he can with Rexulti. As far as how long a “presentation “is, first it’s been so long since I actually did one it’s hard to say. When I was doing them I would say about 20 seconds. Don’t you love this job!
 


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