Abortion discussion: When does life begin?

[Vagitarian]

Could this book answer the ongoing debate?

17th-Century 'Aristotle' Sex Manual Goes Up For Auction

In a section of one edition of the book explaining "what conception is," the author writes, "The first day after the conception she feels a slight quivering or illness running through the whole body; a tickling in the womb, a little pain in the lower parts of the belly." That passage goes on to describe the "giddiness" felt and "pimples in the face" that apparently were thought to occur days after conception.

http://news.yahoo.com/17th-century-aristotle-sex-manual-goes-auction-164444364.html

Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. Roe vs Wade was the end of women dying from having abortions.

 

[Drug Dumper]

Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. Roe vs Wade was the end of women dying from having abortions.

Roe Vs Wade was the beginning of women being able to choose freely.

 

[Walking Eagle]

Let us have a bit of fun with this serious topic. I believe life begins after successful implantation and attachment of the fertilized ovum . BUT, you say, this is not a viable being, it could not continue if detached. It is essentially a parasite, sucking all it needs for life from the host mother. Ever heard about tape worms? When do you actually HAVE a tapeworm? When there is a free segment floating in you digestive juices or when it attaches and begins sucking your nutrients?
My brain is just in a weird place--no offense intended to anyone.
Okay, who takes the first shot?

 

[AnswerMan4Ever!]

Let us have a bit of fun with this serious topic. I believe life begins after successful implantation and attachment of the fertilized ovum . BUT, you say, this is not a viable being, it could not continue if detached. It is essentially a parasite, sucking all it needs for life from the host mother. Ever heard about tape worms? When do you actually HAVE a tapeworm? When there is a free segment floating in you digestive juices or when it attaches and begins sucking your nutrients?
My brain is just in a weird place--no offense intended to anyone.
Okay, who takes the first shot?

For me, never.

 

[Vagitarian]

Let us have a bit of fun with this serious topic. I believe life begins after successful implantation and attachment of the fertilized ovum . BUT, you say, this is not a viable being, it could not continue if detached. It is essentially a parasite, sucking all it needs for life from the host mother. Ever heard about tape worms? When do you actually HAVE a tapeworm? When there is a free segment floating in you digestive juices or when it attaches and begins sucking your nutrients?
My brain is just in a weird place--no offense intended to anyone.
Okay, who takes the first shot?

Lots of different forms of life, ie. bacteria, anaerobe, etc. That was an interesting idea but we gotta stick with mammals, specifically the ones that either go to heaven or hell (supposedly)..

 

[Man For All Seasons]

Let us have a bit of fun with this serious topic. I believe life begins after successful implantation and attachment of the fertilized ovum . BUT, you say, this is not a viable being, it could not continue if detached. It is essentially a parasite, sucking all it needs for life from the host mother. Ever heard about tape worms? When do you actually HAVE a tapeworm? When there is a free segment floating in you digestive juices or when it attaches and begins sucking your nutrients?
My brain is just in a weird place--no offense intended to anyone.
Okay, who takes the first shot?

Interesting concept. Im sure this will upset you (too abrasive Im sure) but life begins at conception. If successful implantation does t take place it is a very short life that experienced a natural death. That's what is important. But from the moment of conception it is an alive, distinct human individual. Not my opinion, scientific fact.

We can discuss what if anything is permissible where this unique, distinct human life is concerned. That is not a scientific question.

 

[Vagitarian]

Interesting concept. Im sure this will upset you (too abrasive Im sure) but life begins at conception. If successful implantation does t take place it is a very short life that experienced a natural death. That's what is important. But from the moment of conception it is an alive, distinct human individual. Not my opinion, scientific fact.

We can discuss what if anything is permissible where this unique, distinct human life is concerned. That is not a scientific question.

I'll go it's a fertilized ovum at this point. To me, that in itself isn't life.

As far as what is permissible? 2 things are permissible: It is permissible to 1) abort it or 2) bring it to term.

 

[Walking Eagle]

Interesting concept. Im sure this will upset you (too abrasive Im sure) but life begins at conception. If successful implantation does t take place it is a very short life that experienced a natural death. That's what is important. But from the moment of conception it is an alive, distinct human individual. Not my opinion, scientific fact.

We can discuss what if anything is permissible where this unique, distinct human life is concerned. That is not a scientific question.

My thinking is that a fertilized that does not implant in the uterine wall has not possible chance for survival. If it is "an alive, distinct human individual" why does it need a host body to survive? It that fertilized egg is life, why not scan women after every intercourse for fertilized eggs and conduct funerals for the ones that do not implant? Remember I am NOT pro -abortion, just posing a religious/philosophical question. When I was young Catholics used to hold burial ceremenies for still born premies AND some even for miscarriages in the first 3 months.

 

[Vagitarian]

My thinking is that a fertilized that does not implant in the uterine wall has not possible chance for survival. If it is "an alive, distinct human individual" why does it need a host body to survive? It that fertilized egg is life, why not scan women after every intercourse for fertilized eggs and conduct funerals for the ones that do not implant? Remember I am NOT pro -abortion, just posing a religious/philosophical question. When I was young Catholics used to hold burial ceremenies for still born premies AND some even for miscarriages in the first 3 months.

Interesting thinking and interesting history on the Catholic practices. I think we can safely say, religious beliefs and practices change over time.