AIMS. Is it for real?

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I still don't get this "service." I am very successful in medical device and I got my experience in sales selling copiers. When the hiring manager looked at me and said "you sold copiers for a long time, you know how to sell, do you want the job?" that is all you need to know.

The bottomline is, you either now how to sell or you don't. It comes from years of honing your skills, learning from mistakes, learning from other successful people and knowing your product. It also comes from self reflection after every presentation, such as "Could I have done better on that presentation?" etc.

Any device company already assumes you know how to sell. Good numbers and longevity at a company are indicative of this. Then, if you go from selling to one medical discipline to another, the company SHOULD train you on the product, disease states, competition, etc. Many surgical companies make you do an extensive ride along with a more tenured rep anyways. I sell a device in a highly specialized sub-specialty discipline, so I had to learn directly from some Doctors who took me under their wings.

It seems to me this AIMS is a middleman for people that either A) Can't hack it on their own to get a device job, or B) Don't believe in themselves and their ability to get a device job.

But such is life, I wish AIMS success. Obviously some people believe it works. It just seems to me to be a little too "Apprentice-ish" TV show style to be for my tastes. While I like competition, I see no point in "competing" for a job I could just go out and get on my own anyways.

What you will find is that once you are in device for a few years, you will get calls from recruiters and companies BEGGING you to interview because your good name travels.
 
Listen from a student that has been at AIMS, is now placed. First, I know who the poster is! You sucked in class, shouldn't be placed and should pay AIMS for even considering you.

Blasting Jim Rogers or anyone else won't make you better. You sucked when you came and still suck now!

Get off the boards and quit taking your problems with yourself out on others.

I along with others are now employed with Biomet.

54+ employed through AIMS just with Biomet. Over 200+ AIMS graduates in the field in one-year.

Companies love these guys including mine! 8 programs with AIMS already.

Get off loser!!!!
 
Saw this over on MedZilla today:

"I attended this program and was hired by an orthopedic company. Now that I am in the field I can honestly say that I am not as prepared as AIMS claimed that I would be. I am now looking for a new position with a larger company. During my current job search/interviews I am always asked what I thought about my AIMS training and I am honest about what I learned and what I now know was overlooked. The thing I hear over and over again by the hiring managers is that I would not be in discussions with them had I not attended AIMS even though I have years of sales experience. It does give a good foundation but there is so much more to learn that was never discussed. This is a tough industry and anyone can learn anatomy. AIMS started off with good intentions,and has hired great instructors but their selection/placement process has gone down the tubes. Many of the recruiters have left due to not getting paid and not believing in the program anymore. I feel for the people who have not gotten their refunds as stated on the contracts. And, Jim Rogers has great friends that are distributors and those are the people you are "guaranteed" your interview with and they have no intentions of hiring you. Trust me when I say there is A LOT of shady stuff going on there, too much to start writing about. They have had their hand slapped by the big companies and had to make a few changes but they are there to make as much money as possible and screw as many people as possible in the process. The graduates of AIMS keep in touch and the stories keep getting worse and worse. I used to really believe in the program but I am not a fan anymore. Do as the above posts have stated, work for a distributor for free for a few months or just network like crazy. "
 
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Saw this over on MedZilla today:

"I attended this program and was hired by an orthopedic company. Now that I am in the field I can honestly say that I am not as prepared as AIMS claimed that I would be. I am now looking for a new position with a larger company. During my current job search/interviews I am always asked what I thought about my AIMS training and I am honest about what I learned and what I now know was overlooked. The thing I hear over and over again by the hiring managers is that I would not be in discussions with them had I not attended AIMS even though I have years of sales experience. It does give a good foundation but there is so much more to learn that was never discussed. This is a tough industry and anyone can learn anatomy. AIMS started off with good intentions,and has hired great instructors but their selection/placement process has gone down the tubes. Many of the recruiters have left due to not getting paid and not believing in the program anymore. I feel for the people who have not gotten their refunds as stated on the contracts. And, Jim Rogers has great friends that are distributors and those are the people you are "guaranteed" your interview with and they have no intentions of hiring you. Trust me when I say there is A LOT of shady stuff going on there, too much to start writing about. They have had their hand slapped by the big companies and had to make a few changes but they are there to make as much money as possible and screw as many people as possible in the process. The graduates of AIMS keep in touch and the stories keep getting worse and worse. I used to really believe in the program but I am not a fan anymore. Do as the above posts have stated, work for a distributor for free for a few months or just network like crazy. "
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That is the point, this program seem to be a middleman.
 
I went to AIMS and got a job. The instructors are good, but Jim Rogers is totally unethical. For example, Jim told my class that all of the valedictorians had been placed. But I know a former valedictorian from AIMS on Facebook who has not been placed after several months. So that was a lie. After that, I was skeptical about everything that Jim said. I also know many people who graduated high in their classes that have not gotten jobs 4 - 8 months later. Finally, I know multiple people that qualified for and have applied for refunds but have not received them.

My advice is that if someone is considering AIMS, do not believe a word that comes out of Jim's mouth. Continue looking for jobs on medreps.com. Do not go to the school if you cannot afford to wait 4 - 6 months or more after graduation to find a job. Also, based on my contacts, do not believe any money back guarantee that AIMS might offer.
 
Look, you can't make everyone happy. Take AIMS for what AIMS is.

If you have the connections, the medical experience then AIMS is probably not for you. Does all AIMS graduate get placed? No...

But here are the facts..

Over 200+ graduates placed in the last 12 months. ALL without any previous experience in medical sales. Companies such as Biomet on their specific "exclusive" corporate program with AIMS for the eighth time. Zimmer, Depuy, Stryker, Smith & Nephew and Biomet account for over 100 placements this year alone. That is the top "5" orthopedic companies.

Jim Rogers has been invited to speak as national sales meetings with such companies as Biomet, Depuy, Exactech, Pioneer, Conmed Linvatec and others.

Been interviewed and published with such companies as Bloomberg, Businessweek, Washington Post, Commercial Appeal and a contributor to publications such as OrthoKnow.

Go to the American Institute of Medical Sales facebook page. Look what "real" students are saying.

AIMS has experience with other companies that are hiring in groups from AIMS. One company hired 13 graduates and four weeks later asked for another 17.

The facts are the facts! If you are a top selling professional, can handle an interview then AIMS is for you.

AIMS will supply you a list of dozens of former graduates now in the medical device field.

Don't let one or two specific people rather they are or say they are students ruin the experience for you.

In closing, you may select to listen to pissed off recruiters acting as a former student or a former student that continues to act as if they are many...

Truth is, AIMS will prepare you for success and help facilitate employment opportunities. Seriously, do your homework and ask AIMS for employers or former students. They will give it to you if needed.

Best of luck in your job search!
 
Don't you people get it?

Its not about what you know, its who you know. That has never changed. AIMS is total horseshit, but if it opens up a network for you, then go for it.

Personally, I would use my college alumni group for networking, and not pay the money for AIMS.

And we should all know that people just hire those that they like and they know. Its not even about having the ability to do the dam job. Sure, once you get the job, you have to produce. But, anything before that is total BS.

Wake up people.
 
I did the AIMS experience and it was a total let down. I would not recommend it to anyone. Total waste of money and waste of time. Jim is a dirt bag and a liar. Anyone who says what people do in their personal life doesn't translate to their professional life is full of crap.

Contact all of the distributors in your area. If you can sell, you will eventually get your foot in the door. You don't need AIMS.
 
I graduated from AIMS earlier this year. As of today, no job, and no interview. I put in for my tuition refund ($6k) since they never got me an interview within 3 months as guaranteed. It's been four months since the request and I got NOTHING. The communication with the company, especially the recruiters, is a disgrace. NEVER a return phone call or even an e-mail. Yes, some students have been hired, but the rate for 2010 is horrible. AIMS is the Titanic.
 
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I graduated from AIMS earlier this year. As of today, no job, and no interview. I put in for my tuition refund ($6k) since they never got me an interview within 3 months as guaranteed. It's been four months since the request and I got NOTHING. The communication with the company, especially the recruiters, is a disgrace. NEVER a return phone call or even an e-mail. Yes, some students have been hired, but the rate for 2010 is horrible. AIMS is the Titanic.
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Chalk it up as a learning experience.

You just can't give people your money for nonsense, especially for pipe dreams.

Let's face it, it MOSTLY comes down to who you know for these jobs. I have over ten years of strong pharmaceuticals and a very good education, and always get to the last round of interviews, but still can't get the job. Is AIMS going to put me over the top? No flipping way!

In the end, it really doesn't matter anyway. Moreover, these jobs offer a great deal of headaches, so even though the money is good, the overall experience probably blows big time.
 
Anonymous said:
New medical device sales school:

http://www.prepmd.org

ONLY $25,OOO FOR 6 MONTH CLASS!
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I think the operative word here is "only" This sounds like a gamble, 25K for 6 months? Sounds like they are taking advantage of people trying to get into CRM. Now CRM is the top of the food chain and if they "gaurentee" placement or your money back then the school is worth 50,000 in my eyes. But I don't see anything on their website gaurenteeing placement, and they are a new school. Also I heard that only about half of their first class got hired (8 or 9 of them I think). Now granted they have only been graduated for like 2 months, but still, for that kind of cheddar they should be placed before the damn class even starts. Can anybody correct me if I'm wrong?
 
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Chalk it up as a learning experience.

You just can't give people your money for nonsense, especially for pipe dreams.

Let's face it, it MOSTLY comes down to who you know for these jobs. I have over ten years of strong pharmaceuticals and a very good education, and always get to the last round of interviews, but still can't get the job. Is AIMS going to put me over the top? No flipping way!

In the end, it really doesn't matter anyway. Moreover, these jobs offer a great deal of headaches, so even though the money is good, the overall experience probably blows big time.
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Justy because your a pussy and suck at interviewing don't get on here and knock other people's dreams and their ability to chase it. there is a reason why you aren't getting hired and I gaurentee you that the hiring manager doesn't see passion in you. He probably think's you are on PharmaCafe bitching about all the things that are owed to you and not out there spending that time learning about the industry
 
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Justy because your a pussy and suck at interviewing don't get on here and knock other people's dreams and their ability to chase it. there is a reason why you aren't getting hired and I gaurentee you that the hiring manager doesn't see passion in you. He probably think's you are on PharmaCafe bitching about all the things that are owed to you and not out there spending that time learning about the industry
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Wrong again.

You are so full of shit.

If you don't think WHO you know matters, then you have your fucking head up your ass, which your post clearly demonstrates.

good night asshole.
 


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